<p>“”“It lost spots on Newsweek’s list because that magazine ranking had a lot to do with jobs/employment after graduation and they know that Fordham has a stellar record of getting kids into wallstreet firms and they PRESUMED Fordham would be hurt really badly with WallStreet blowing up last fall. Wrong!”"</p>
<p>I will assume it’s the BusinessWeek rankings that are being referred to. For anyone interested in how schools are ranked, here is a link to their explanation. It is ludicrous to state that BusinessWeek bases their rankings on presumptions. While their statistics and surveys may be flawed and biased, they are not presumptuous. The reason Fordham dropped in ranking was due to student surveys. Fordham ranked 64th in student survey rankings, while ranking 39th in recruiter rankings. The CBA Dean will actually be holding focus groups with the students to learn how their Fordham experience can be improved. UVA, on the other hand, climbed this year to number 1 in student surveys and 52 in recruiter surveys. While Fordham has a much smaller student body compared to UVA, UVA has an incredible Business facility and this is something Fordham needs to look at. Villanova and Notre Dame has them too. Georgetown, as well, is opening a new Business building this year and I expect their rankings will slowly improve because of the new state-of-the-art facilities. Fordham cannot compete with them unless they improve their Business facilities. And let’s not discuss the basketball program!!</p>
<p>And Nocousin, your name may have changed once again, but your writing style and opinions do not. If you really can’t stay away from this board like you said you were going to, at least please do some research and be factually correct. Those in the know, those who have close ties to Fordham and the Fordham community know when someone represents Fordham inaccurately. It’s the new people on this board who do not, and they are the ones that need a realistic view not a candy coated one.</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section): 630M 600CR 550W
[</em>] SAT IIs:
[<em>] ACT: 25:(
[</em>] APs: 3 on AP Gov
[<em>] IBs:
[</em>] GPA: 3.16 UW with massive upward trend
[<em>] Rank:
[</em>] Other stats:
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: Teen Court
[</em>] Job/Work Experience:Worked at an ice cream place for a month a few years back
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses):Frasier’s impact on me
[</em>] Teacher Recs: I assume really good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: She loves me
[</em>] Applied on: November?
[<em>] Hook (if any): I live in Oregon
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country:Oregon
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Public HS
[</em>] Ethnicity: White
[li] Gender: Male[/li][/ul]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO BABY!</p>
<p>I am SOOOO offended! Not. Sorry fellas. But your opinions are no more valid than the next guys. You are certainly free to disagree with me if you want. I could frankly care less. If you are that bored with your time to spend it stalking people and making ad hominem attacks, then it really sheds more light upon you than me. </p>
<p>My agenda here is to be helpful. What makes you so more well informed by the way Alumn? </p>
<p>Goodness gracious, what a negative vibe you present here.</p>
<p>i think everyone here does notice, and it does really irritate me too, but i think the best thing to do is just ignore him/her. There’s no reason to start this thing all over again</p>
<p>[list][<em>] SAT I (by section):
[</em>] SAT IIs:
[<em>] ACT:[</em>] 33
APs:[<em>] American Gov (3), and I’ll be taking Music Theory, English Lit and U.S. History.
IBs:[</em>]
GPA:[<em>] 3.8 unweighted, 4.5 weighted.
Rank:[</em>] Somewhere around 12 of 120ish.</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section): 2350+
[</em>] SAT IIs: 3, all above 750
[<em>] APs: three 5’s
[</em>] GPA: 4.0
[<em>] Rank: top 2% at competitive public
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: 2 varsity sports (captain of both), non-scientific publication, an instrument, a few clubs/committees with some leadership or recognition
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: yes–a few hours a week since freshman year
[</em>] Essay: I liked it a lot.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Both very good.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Sounded really good (but I feel like everyone’s must?)
[<em>] Applied on: sometime in November (RD though)
[</em>] Hook (if any): nope.
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: CT
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): competitive suburban public. usually sends a couple to a few to the ivies every year.
[<em>] Ethnicity: white
[</em>] Gender: female
[/ul]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: Also received the National Merit scholarship, which is a really nice offer. The acceptance folder was pretty high quality too lol. Congratulations to everyone who got in!!</p>
<p>LOTS of extracurriculars(captain at 2 varsity sports,volunteer,drama club…)
speaks 4 languages
attended high school in 3 different countries in 4 years
international: Brazil</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section):1940,1290 Critical Reading 650, Math 660 Writing 630
[</em>] SAT IIs: Bio M: 660, Spanish: 650
[<em>] ACT:
[</em>] APs: Bio(4), Spanish(4), comp sci, english, calc AB
[<em>] IBs:
[</em>] GPA: 3.42 unweighted, 3.8
[<em>] Rank: no rank, I think my counselor put 30%, but my coursework is much more rigorous than most of the students in my grad class
[</em>] Other stats:
[/ul][ b]Subjective:**[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: Youth Advisory Board(community service group), Mock Trial, JCYC(community service
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Summer at art gallery & habitat restoration, summer internship at san francisco DA office
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses):
[</em>] Teacher Recs: 2
[<em>] Counselor Rec: 1
[</em>] Applied on: 11/30/08
[<em>] Hook (if any):
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: CA, US
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available):
[</em>] Ethnicity: White, Hispanic
[<em>] Gender: Male
[/ul]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: </em>?</p>
<p>I highly doubt race plays any role in admissions decisions, including waiting list. D was waitlisted today. She is white, Catholic and a triple legacy (both parents are grads and her sibling is a current Fordham student).</p>
<p>I’m not going to go through the whole format, but briefly:</p>
<p>SAT: M: 550, CR: 670, Writing 630? 650? (essay 9)
ACT: 27 composite
GPA: 3.47, all IB classes except for math – which has always been a struggle for her and pulls down her GPA.
Rank: Top 20%</p>
<p>Teacher Recs: 2 – we were told Excellent
Guidance: 1 – we were told Excellent
Personal Essay – she was told it was “exceptionally good.” Who knows?</p>
<p>Usual ECs and CAS hours, with a longtime concentration in music performance and competitions</p>
<p>Attends large, very diverse public HS in a DC suburb.</p>
<p>ACCEPTED!
With a scholarship, though it was pretty small.</p>
<p>SAT: Math- 500, CR- 650, Writing- 660
GPA: 3.45…although it has likely gone up since last semester.
Rank: Top 20%
Enrolled in all IB classes…so that’s seven IB classes. It’s pretty horrific lmao.</p>
<p>Teacher Recs- 2, and I’m confident they were very good.
Guidance- 1, same as above. My guidance counselor likes me a lot lol.
Personal Essay- strong.</p>
<p>I have a lot of ECs, I’m in all three divisions of my choir (choir is a really big deal in my school), Drama Club, also involved in community theater in my city, I take advanced dance classes and I also volunteer as an assistant dance teacher, umm student council type stuff, school newspaper, Link Crew, etc. etc.</p>
<p>I have a lot of volunteer work because IB requires 150 CAS hours. So I have about 200+ hours (-_-).</p>
<p>Attended a rigiorous, diverse, private high school right outside of NYC in NJ. I’m Irish-Catholic, and I have no familial ties to the university whatsoever.</p>
<p>Still, I’m not sure if I’m going to go. I got into Seton Hall University with a much larger scholarship, and Fordham is already $10,000 dollars more. I don’t know, I’m just not sure Fordham’s worth THAT much more money.</p>
<p>I am STUNNED at some of the waitlisted results above. Just STUNNED. My sincere empathetic regrets to those people. But it is what it is. And every year college admissions results get more competitive and more and more bizarre. People who get in we are surprised about and people who get waitlisted or rejected we are surprised about. I have no earthly idea what drives these decisions. Sometimes I think they use a popcorn machine to make decisions. Or one of those lottery machines that shoots out ping pong balls with numbers on them. Really.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>For those waitlisted or rejected, do not despair. Life does go on. Pick wisely from the schools that have accepted you already. Visit them again in April if you can. Turn the page and look forward, not backwards. Whatever you do…do NOT emote about this and go into a deep funk. Hold your heads high and look forward to going to college in the fall.</p>
<p>Javaid91: It wouldn’t make sense to draw any sort of conclusion like that, based on 2 or 3 posts made on an anonymous forum. That’s 2 or 3 out of how many thousands of decisions sent out?</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] ACT: 33 Comp
[</em>] APs: European History (3), Biology (4), English Language and Composition (5), U.S. History (5). Currently taking English Literature and Composition, Chemistry, Spanish Language, and U.S. Government and Politics
[<em>] GPA: 4.4 (W), 3.7 (UW)
[</em>] Rank: N/A (but top 5)
[li] Other stats: National Honor Society, Silver and Bronze Medal National Spanish Exam, Quill and Scroll, Cum Laude Society, Mu Alpha Theta…others</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: Environmental Club, Spanish Club, Interact Club, Student Government (SGA Pres, VP, Secretary), Director of Prom Committee, Student Life and Academics Committee, Environmental Committee, FCA, Co-Founder of Golf Team, JV and V Basketball, Yearbook Editor
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses): Personal Statement was about Unicorns
[<em>] Teacher Recs: didn’t read them, but “flawless” according to counselor
[</em>] Counselor Rec: I’m sure it was great
[<em>] Applied on: ? Online? Common App.
[</em>] Hook (if any): 2nd Woman SGA Pres. in history of school, studied abroad, lots of service work…?</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Alabama, USA
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Private, College Prep
[<em>] Ethnicity: Caucasian
[</em>] Gender: Female</p>
<p>[/ul]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:
Without scholarship, this isn’t an option sadly! Congrats to everyone else who got in!</p>
D was waitlisted today. She is white, Catholic and a triple legacy (both parents are grads and her sibling is a current Fordham student).</p>