<p>meksevin: If its any consolation, and I mean that sincerely, my D got blasted by her number one and two choices, for no apparent reason…she was in the right percentile…and someone from her high school got into number one and then didnt go! Arrrrrrrrgh! Fordham was number 3 or 4, and she went kinda kicking and screaming… made worse by severe culture shock in New York. Rough semester…but got through it and survived…then thrived…</p>
<p>The moral is that things happen for a reason and we dont always see that reason on the front end…and sometimes the fallback schools (match schools, for example…or high safety schools) turn out to be a blessing. </p>
<p>Again, you may still yet get good news from Fordham. I dont know they system of mailing the batches…or the USPS. I only know general anecdotal stuff from years past. </p>
<p>If it were up to me they would ban the SAT/ACT. Too many scandals. Too many people have inside information on how to teach to the test. And too many people get screwed. Its very unfair.</p>
<p>sovereigndebt,
You have responded so very quickly and articulately to others and seem to have some knowledege as to what is going on at Fordham.
Here on Long Island we are holding out for the big envelope to arrive. My son and his friends have yet to hear anything. They are all great kids with wonderful stats and exceptional ecs. We are on pins and needles here. Accepted at Providence, Loyola, UVM, MD, a couple of SUNYs including Stony Brook and James Madison.
Any insight as to what’s going on?
Fordham is his #1 school.
Wishing all the others on CC the very best in their college journey.
luckymom2:)</p>
<p>I wish I could help. No real “insider” information…just anecdotal experience. They mail in batches, that I know. Who is in what batch, why, and wherefore? I have no clue…just a pattern in the past. What is clear is that, looking at Fordham’s 2016 written strategic plan, they intend on getting their avg. SAT to 1350 by 2016. They make progress every year, and sadly that means some kids who formerly would get in, may not get in now. Or may get waitlisted. Also, while Fordham has a large and healthy “stable” of traditional feeder high schools, mostly catholic schools in the tri-state area plus the Jesuit prep schools around the country, they are reaching out to all four corners of the country and targeting high stats kids. Then, they also remain true to their other mission of serving the underprivileged and economically disadvantaged…so the mix in each class is very diverse. That is a good thing in the end, but it means for some tears and pain to people who really want Fordham…and are on the bubble. </p>
<p>So…the week is young and I wouldnt panic just yet. You just have to be patient and hope for the best. We were admitted (after being trashed by and ED and another EA II school) to Fordham RD 5 years ago. We got an early warning email, followed by the packet a few days later. Good news for us. And then we had to sort through the top 3 acceptances and make a decision, which wasnt easy…in fact it was grueling and heartwrenching, involving friends. So I empathize your pain and frustration. College admissions are so quirky…everywhere. The key is to look forward and upwards, wipe the tears if you get bad news and move on QUICKLY, buy the gear of the school who takes you and you accept…embrace that school and go with it. Maybe its Fordham. </p>
<p>Mail came and still nothing from Fordham (#1 choice). We’re in Los Angeles. So I’m beginning to lose hope for him.</p>
<p>Meksevin, S almost the same profile as your D. SAT 1750 (not a good test taker either).
UW - 3.7 W 3.9. Honestly he didn’t prepare for his SAT’s that well and now it’s biting him in the behind – which is terrible since his grades are certainly good enough for many good schools.</p>
<p>But at least S got some good news – accepted at Loyola Marymount today. He got waitlisted at Santa Clara yesterday.</p>
<p>S does have a fallback since he’s accepted at University of Wisconsin Madison. But he started getting tense about going there (I told him to start getting used to the idea).</p>
<p>Yes, my D has to start thinking about her other choices. She knew Fordham would be tough but she really felt she had a chance and she is still holding on even though nothing came in the mail today and we are in CT.</p>
<p>Sovereigndebt. You been a wealth of information, kind and encouraging to all on the site. We live in Colorado and haven’t heard from Fordham. D has been accepted into 6 or the 7 schools to which she applied and Fordham is her number #1 choice. We don’t know of anyone in Colorado who has received an acceptance or rejection letter. She’s been in Catholic school K - 12, has good enough grades and excellent EC’s but SAT math scores pulled CR/M total down. We tried to convince her to retake it and she didn’t want to do that – I’m sure she is on the bubble and will likely be wait listed or rejected since we haven’t heard – I, too, believe she will be where she needs to be and this has been potentially a very difficult lesson for her to learn. We’ll see! Thanks again for your kindness and inspiration to all on these boards.</p>
<p>I received my acceptance on Monday (3/26). I come from a highly rated, very rigorous private school in Virginia. I really feel for some of the people in this thread who didn’t get in. I know a few people at my school with slightly above average sats and gpas (~1700/1800, 3.5 gpa), who got in over some of the people in this thread. I know of one classmate who told me her parents knew some of the admissions directors and were friends with them, and that students from my school had been given “a good word”. My stats:</p>
<p>Sat: 2230 (M 700, CR 800, WR 730)
GPA: UW 3.5 W 3.8
Current Classes: Ap Spanish Language, Ap English Literature, Ap Calculus BC, Ap Government, Ap Biology, Ap Physics C, Ap Macro Economics
Took past honors and AP classes as well.</p>
<p>EC’s: Numerous Volunteer activities, Varisty Swimming all 4 years, Newspaper Club, Debate Club</p>
<p>“I come from a highly rated, very rigorous private school in Virginia”</p>
<p>Seratonin, I’d imagine that counts for quite a bit. A 3.5 GPA at a school like that may be > a 4.0+ at many other schools. We have found that the colleges look at the specific high school the student attends, the level of rigor, and if there is grade deflation. My son has already gotten into some highly rated schools (including Fordham, Bucknell and Lehigh), probably in the bottome 5% of GPAs. And he is not a recruited athelete. Thank God they actually look at these applications and don’t just toss them based on GPAs!</p>
<p>At every college, admissions directors will tell you that they could fill an entire class with 4.0 gpa’s and perfect 1600 SATs. They intentionally don’t do that, for a lot of reasons, including diversity in academics and other diversity issues like geography, type of background, school rigor etc. </p>
<p>Its not an exact science and by definition some very worthy candidates get passed over. I know the pain, been there and done that at other schools. </p>
<p>The trick is when all is said and done by this weekend, each student must collect their admissions letters and discard the rejections (and likely most of their waitlist letters.) Then focus on who took them, what they offer, the vibe and finances. Then pull the trigger, perhaps after a visit during accepted student orientation in April. Once you pull the trigger, mail in the deposit, close the book on the schools YOU rejected and buy the gear for the one you selected. Look forward and upwards. </p>
<p>Pain and disappointment is a part of life for everyone. Its not fun, but many lessons can be learned from failures and disappointments. And sometimes things happen for a reason. </p>
<p>My kid met a young man at Fordham and they are still dating…so one never knows.
Good luck to all and best wishes if you are going elsewhere. :-)</p>
<p>Yes I’d have to agree with everything sovereigndebt said. Admissions tend to be very quirky at most schools. My D also attends a highly rated rigorous high school very well known to Fordham. Fordham was a low reach for her, but she was accepted and I can’t help but think that one of the main reasons is that maybe it’s because she is a full pay student. I would think they would need some of these types too :).</p>
<p>Incidently, now she is deciding between Fordham and BU. We went to Fordham a few weeks ago so it is still fresh in her mind so we will not attend the admitted student day. We have not been to BU so will go next week. My husband and I are dying for her to go to Fordham, but at this point she is leaning towards BU. We are totally keeping our mouths shut, but it is so hard, lol.</p>
<p>Hi Westie22,
My D will take your daughters spot at Fordham!! Still no letter and the poor thing is home with a migraine, surely because of the stress of this acceptance craze! I am trying to get her to re-look at Villanova but to her it is too far so I believe PC will be her choice unless the Fordham letter is coming via Pony express! But since others in our town heard I would say that is really reaching! In the whole scheme of things this will all pass and 6 months from now our children will all be settled in to their new lives!</p>
<p>Sometimes closure is just needed here. Has anyone gotten rejections and waitlists yet in this latest batch? Once those are out, then I can presume it’s over and we can stop getting stressed.</p>
<p>We haven’t received anything either. I am trying to remain optimistic. After all, many of the schools seem to be saying that their applications have been considerably higher this year…some up to 44,000. Maybe that has forced them to do things differently than in past? There seem to be some great applicants still waiting for word. Fingers crossed for everyone!!</p>
<p>@meksevin, just to drive the point home on how strange admissions are, my D was waitlisted at PC and accepted to Fordham, so maybe there is still hope for you.</p>
<p>westie22: If you would like your D to attend Fordham, I’d suggest that, if possible, you pay the school one more visit on the accepted students day where Father McShane speaks to the admitted students. He is a wonderful speaker who makes a good case for Fordham without the type of “hard sell” that would turn anyone off. Ultimately the choices should (within financial constraints) be your D’s, but it may help her to listen to him.</p>
<p>@happy1 - Yes we asked her if she would like to go and she’s saying no right now, but there is one Apr. 15 so after next week when we visit BU we will bring it up again. Don’t want to force her into anything, maybe she will not like what she she’s at BU, especially since she wasn’t admitted into the college she wanted, they put her in the college of general studies.</p>
<p>Westie, BU is a great school- but college of general studies is very different from the “regular” schools— basically it is a basic studies “boot camp” and everyone who successfully completes it is guaranteed into the school of their choice. It is a different experience than starting out in the school of her choice, but still a good way to go to BU if that is the right school for her. Good luck</p>
I am trying to remain optimistic. After all, many of the schools seem to be saying that their applications have been considerably higher this year…some up to 44,000. Maybe that has forced them to do things differently than in past? There seem to be some great applicants still waiting for word. Fingers crossed for everyone!!</p>