Forget USNEWS What is your top 25?

<p>I was inspired by Tonypizzas favorite Ivy Thread. We will use US News format. I will say let us leave out the LAC's and someone if they are interested can make a separate thread for those or I will do so once this thread dies.</p>

<p>I will start by saying I think US news completely disrespects the value of the publics but that is just my bias you are welcome to have your own. :-)</p>

<p>One more thing if you think campuses are tied go to the next number (see format below.</p>

<p>1) Harvard
2) Yale
2) Stanford
4) Berkeley
5) Princeton
6) MIT (too one dimensional and weak in liberal arts)
7) Columbia
7) Chicago
9) Michigan
10) Cal Tech (see above)
10) Penn
10) Brown
13) Johns Hopkins
14) UCLA
14) Virginia
16) Cornell
17) Northwestern
18) Duke
19) Wisconsin-Madison (highly underrated IMHO)
20) UNC-Chapel
21) Rice
22) Illinois-Urbana Champaign (again underrated)
23) Notre Dame
24) Vanderbilt
25) U Texas Austin
25) U of Washington</p>

<p>Dartmouth is an LAC in IVY clothing and yeah I cheated with a tie for 25!</p>

<p>1) Harvard
2) Stanford
2) Princeton
4) Yale
5) MIT
6) Berkeley
7) Columbia
7) Chicago
9) Penn
10) Caltech
10) Cornell
10) Duke
10) Johns Hopkins
10) Michigan
10) Northwestern
16) Brown
16) Dartmouth
16) Rice
19) UCLA
20) Wisconsin
21) Virginia
22) UNC-Chapel Hill
22) Illinois-Urbana Champaign
22) Vanderbilt
25) Notre Dame
25) U Texas Austin
25) U of Washington</p>

<p>1) Harvard
2) Yale
2) Stanford
4) Berkeley
5) Princeton
6) MIT
7) Columbia
7) Chicago
9) Michigan
10) Cal Tech
10) Penn
10) Brown
13) Washington University in Saint Louis
14) Johns Hopkins
15-25) roughly the same as UCBChemEGrad</p>

<p>According to the Times/QS ranking of world universities, the top 30 universities in the US are:</p>

<p>[ol]</p>

<p>[<em>]Harvard
[</em>]Yale
[<em>]Princeton
[</em>]Caltech, Chicago
[<em>]MIT
[</em>]Columbia
[<em>]Duke
[</em>]Penn
[<em>]Johns Hopkins
[</em>]Stanford
[<em>]Cornell
[</em>]Carnegie Mellon
[<em>]Cal Berkeley
[</em>]Northwestern
[<em>]Brown
[</em>]Michigan
[<em>]UCLA
[</em>]Boston University
[<em>]NYU
[</em>]Texas-Austin
[<em>]University of Washington
[</em>]Wisconsin-Madison
[<em>]California San Diego
[</em>]Dartmouth College
[<em>]Illinois
[</em>]Emory
[<em>]Pitt
[</em>]Purdue
[<em>]Maryland
[</em>]Vanderbilt
[/ol]</p>

<p>Are you guys rating universities or undergrad?</p>

<p>Here's undergrad:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li><p>MIT</p>

<br>


<br></li>
<li><p>Columbia</p></li>
<li><p>Dartmouth</p></li>
<li><p>Caltech</p>

<br>


<br></li>
<li><p>Penn</p></li>
<li><p>Duke</p></li>
<li><p>Brown</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell</p></li>
<li><p>Northwestern</p></li>
<li><p>Chicago</p></li>
<li><p>JHU</p></li>
<li><p>WashU</p></li>
<li><p>Rice</p></li>
<li><p>Vanderbilt</p></li>
<li><p>UVA</p></li>
<li><p>Notre Dame</p></li>
<li><p>Emory</p></li>
<li><p>Berkeley</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan</p></li>
<li><p>UCLA</p></li>
<li><p>Tufts</p></li>
<li><p>UNC</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Well, I think I'll go ahead and consider undergraduate, graduate, and professional academic performance. I'll also consider resources and research.</p>

<p>(1) Harvard
(1) Stanford
(3) Yale
(4) Penn
(4) Columbia
(6) Berkeley (resources)
(7) UChicago
(7) MIT (narrower focus)
(9) Princeton
(10) Cornell
(11) Michigan
(12) Duke
(13) Northwestern
(14) Johns Hopkins
(15) Cal-tech
(16) Dartmouth
(16) Brown
(18) Rice
(19) UCLA
(20) Virginia
(21) Vanderbilt
(22) Emory
(23) UNC - Chapel Hill
(24) Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
(25) Texas - Austin</p>

<p>Different approach than most. I don't know what you guys think.</p>

<p>Sorry Bruno. Any survey that has nine schools in this country rated higher than Stanford is not to be taken seriously. I saw that survey. It is very biased towards UK colleges.</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>UC Berkeley</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Rice
17 Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>College of William and Mary</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>University of Wisconsin</li>
<li>University of Texas</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
</ol>

<p>top publics are jsut behind top privates</p>

<p>WashU snub alert. =)</p>

<p>Top 25 Research Universities in the U.S. </p>

<ol>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Michigan-Ann Arbor </li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>UCLA
12 UWa-Seattle</li>
<li>UWi-Madison</li>
<li>UMinn-Twin Cities</li>
<li>Washington U-St. Louis</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>U Chicago
18 UCSD
19 UNC-Chapel Hill</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>USC (CA)</li>
<li>Ohio State</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>UF</li>
</ol>

<p>(In the next grouping (25-50) are UIUC, UT-Austin, Vandy, Emory, NYU, UC-Davis, Dartmouth, Tufts, and Rice.) </p>

<p>My subjective list, with my own personal biased omissions, would be: </p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>MIT </li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Chicago
10 Dartmouth
11 Duke</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>WashU</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>UWi-Madison</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
</ol>

<p>Start a new thread for ALL undergraduate schools, this one is now closed. Similar threads that include or refer to graduate schools need to be posted in the appropriate forum. </p>