<p>so i got bids from zbt and pike. i want to check out beta as well. any info as to what each of these do for hazing, or how/what freshman do fall pledge quarter? i really want to join but school is #1 priority. not sure if i should wait till spring or even soph year.</p>
<p>from what ive heard, pike is known as the date-rape frat
but then again i know a couple guys and they're pretty chill</p>
<p>You can't really know what the fraternities are going to do throughout the pledge quarter because a lot of it is very secretive. I've heard that ZBT does not do much in the way of hazing, and I really don't know about pike but I've heard it's tough. Beta isn't supposed to be great but the most important thing is the guys in the house and not reputation so definitely go by and meet all the guys in the house. For school, you should be fine rushing and they say it's kind of like adding one more class to your schedule but it probably won't be anything you can't handle.</p>
<p>You already have bids to 2 so just keep looking at other houses that you haven't seen yet. Find one where you really get along with the guys and join there.</p>
<p>pick the one whose guys you like the most - especially pay attention to the ones in your pledge class. (what linnes said). For pike.. I believe you'll have to do some sort of favor for each of the brothers - but that's just what I heard.</p>
<p>greaaat advice. ya ima just keep checking new houses everyday, and going back to the ones i got bids from. anyone else on CC rushing? or already in a frat?</p>
<p>APO is good. It's co-ed.</p>
<p>of those two you're better off wtih zbt, in my opnion</p>
<p>do frats in general just NOT have good reps? besides zeta psi -_-; my friend from pike says they dont haze. yadada and mostly, 'rape' is just a stereotype that most acquire . . .</p>
<p>yeah pike kinda sucks and they will ask for favors ALL the time so i wouldnt suggest on gettin into that frat.. while the zbt are kinda kool actually good luck :P</p>
<p>i hear pike is kinda wack</p>
<p>zbt seemed kinda wack too when i tried rushing for them.</p>
<p>beta sucks at this campus but at other school's its pretty good. if you want connections go with beta.</p>
<p>If you're talking about frat row frats, its debateable.</p>
<p>I've heard good things about APO.</p>
<p>you guys should check out PGN - Phi Gamma Nu, if you're into business, its co-ed too</p>