<p>which eating clubs do the princeton frats and sororities feed into? and what are the stereotypes for each? thanks</p>
<p>Frats
Zete, SAE ---> Ivy, TI
KA ---> Cottage
St. A's (co-ed) ---> Ivy, Terrace
AEPi ---> varies
Deke, Pike, etc.: no one cares</p>
<p>Sororities
Pi Phi ---> Ivy, TI
Theta ---> Cottage
Kappa ---> Cap I guess, but it really depends</p>
<p>The "Welcom Class of 2012" newspaper you'll get in the mail from the Prince will give more detailed descriptions.</p>
<p>thank you!</p>
<p>Don't get overwhelmed by the frat/sorority scene at Princeton. It's kind of irrelevant, and kind of sketchy, the frats in particular. A lot of people get caught up in the Greek life notion, but at Princeton, they're not officially recognized or "real" in some sense. The stereotypes are actually fairly accurate though.</p>
<p>1), you should be ashamed of yourself-----Princeton is an ACTUAL place with ACTUAL humans. It is not a place that can be "passed" or "understood" using simple theorums or SAT style category learning. </p>
<p>2) The Princeton eating club scene has changed DRAMATICALLY since 1990 (when these stereotypes/frat-sorority feeders first began being perpetuated through publications like the daily princetonian and tiger magazine) and these categories are for the most part no longer applicable. Tons of Thetas don't get into Cottage, Pi Phis are always hosed from Ivy, etc. etc. etc. There are no longer "connections." Just as the ties on Wall Street have weakened, so too have the eating club connections. There are all types everywhere, so don't try to understand Princeton using categories.</p>
<p>No one in their right mind at Princeton believes these stereotypes and it in fact belittles the integrity of the Princeton student body to perpetuate them. The women at Princeton, be they in a sorority or in the lab, are not there to be "f**cked, dated, or married."</p>
<p>Yes the sorority stereotypes are ridiculous, but they're just that, stereotypes. </p>
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Tons of Thetas don't get into Cottage
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Why, because they bickered Ivy instead? :rolleyes: Seriously though, are you really going to argue with a straight face that sororities and frats don't feed into the bicker clubs? </p>
<p>"I don't think it's any secret to students that certain frats and sororities are feeders to certain eating clubs," said Leslie-Bernard Joseph '06, former USG president and a member of the freshman experience committee. "It funnels you into a social clique for perhaps the rest of your four years on campus."
[url=<a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/05/09/news/12888.shtml%5DSource%5B/url">http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/05/09/news/12888.shtml]Source[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Frats/Sororities can also work against you. A theta that a lot of the other thetas don't like doesn't have much of a chance.</p>
<p>^As we learned all too well this spring...</p>
<p>Honestly, I think the most positive way to approach frats/sororities is to look at them as an opportunity to meet new people and make friends. That's what usually what gets a person into a club anyways. People don't get in because they are affiliated with a certain frat/sorority. Rather, they make friends through the group and subsequently already know a lot of club members.</p>
<p>It works the same with a lot of groups on campus...varsity teams, club teams, performing arts groups, etc.</p>
<p>Only certain frats have consistent placement in eating clubs: SAE and Zete particularly. Sororities are more lenient in who they admit (I think 90% girls get into A sorority, while 10% of guys get into the competitive frats). So, a lot of girls in sororities are b****y, and are ugly or have an ugly personality. This is screened out pretty closely. </p>
<p>Kappas, if they DO bicker, rarely bicker outside Tower and Cap, and they're more likely to know "their chances." But Thetas and Pi Phis who otherwise couldn't get into TI or Ivy or Cottage bicker anyways because their friends are doing so.</p>
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No one in their right mind at Princeton believes these stereotypes and it in fact belittles the integrity of the Princeton student body to perpetuate them. The women at Princeton, be they in a sorority or in the lab, are not there to be "f**cked, dated, or married."
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Then what are they there for?</p>
<p>"Sororities are more lenient in who they admit (I think 90% girls get into A sorority, while 10% of guys get into the competitive frats)."</p>
<p>Not entirely accurate - each year about half or about 60% of girls who rush get into a sorority.</p>
<p>"Kappas, if they DO bicker, rarely bicker outside Tower and Cap, and they're more likely to know "their chances.""</p>
<p>The percentage of Kappas that bicker is not any different than the percentage of Thetas or Pi Phis - the vast majority choose to bicker - but yes, they tend to concentrate in Cap/Tower, although I predict that the newest pledge class, which is particularly diverse, is going to end up spread out among several bicker clubs. </p>
<p>Yeah, the stereotypes are accurate in general</p>
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Not entirely accurate - each year about half or about 60% of girls who rush get into a sorority.
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<p>I'm pretty sure most of those who don't get bids drop out before the rush process ends.</p>
<p>Yeah, that's probably true, a lot of girls drop after the first cut is made if they don't get invited back to the sorority they want (although the first cut can sometimes include up to 1/3 of the girls who rush).</p>
<p>A couple more frats that haven't been discussed yet:</p>
<p>Chi Phi: feeds into TI/Ivy, but not as directly as SAE/Zete
Beta: feeds into Cottage, the "football frat"</p>
<p>"Then what are they there for"? Did you read my post? Because some Princetonians can't understand the world because unless they put it into easily digested labels and categories---this is how they got in and this is how they will pass the LSAT, MCAT, etc.</p>
<p>Tiger magazine also has lists of old jokes based on eating club stereotypes at 75% of their material and would cease to exist if it weren't for the stereotypes; likewise, the Daily Princetonian wants to have some sort of "authority" in their freshman issue.</p>
<p>This post is amusing----good luck Freshman Week to all involved.</p>
<p>Or did you mean what are the women at Princeton there for? In which case, nevermind</p>
<p>Princeton Gal, why such animosity? You affiliated with Greek life on campus?</p>
<p>The Prince had some interesting data on this last fall; unfortunately the online version of the graphic that appeared in print is only available through a grainy shot of the front page of that day's paper:</p>
<p>Snapshot</a> for Monday, October 8, 2007 - The Daily Princetonian
Sisters</a> by the numbers - The Daily Princetonian</p>
<p>Look, there are stereotypes regarding frats and sororities. And while obviously the ones regarding personality or promiscuity are off, there are general trends. A good portion of AEPi does consider themselves to be Jewish. And KA does have a preppy, wealthy contingent (or at least people who act that way.) And St. A's is viewed as secretive and elitist, and there are rumors about coke use. It may not be an accurate description, but I can assure you that it's an accurate perception.</p>
<p>Perhaps Princeton Gal is disappointed with the way she has been perceived when people find out what sorority she is in, but joining a frat or sorority is entirely optional. You don't have to rush to get into an eating club that you want to get into. If you do, the negatives come with the positives. Yes, you might stand a better chance at getting into your eating club, but there are perceptions regarding each sorority that tends to make them self-selective.</p>
<p>My advice to incoming freshman is to wait to rush, and not be taken up by the scene. Certain frats (sororities are not as selective or cliquish, or at least that's the perception of them) only hang out with their frat "brothers", and it can be very limiting ultimately if you do that from the get go.</p>