Friend lied in the application to match me

Pre-College Issues High School Life
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<p>My friend and I have always been really competitive in sports, school, everything. I know him really well and I can definitely say he's my best friend and vice versa. We both finished up our first semester of senior year relatively proud of our academic achievements over the past few years. However, in 9th grade, we took a separate turn. I, knowing the importance of extra curricular activities, knew to join various clubs (the important one in this post is Debate Team). I asked him to join, convinced him to join, almost forced him to join, but he didn't because he thought it was a waste of time. I have stayed loyal and dedicated to debate team throughout my four years of high school; I was elected Secretary in my junior year, and Vice President in my senior year. However, this winter, during college apps, he finally realized the need for extra curriculars. So he faked his college app, and said he was a four year debate team member and officer of the club.</p>

<p>Even though hes one of my closest friends, this brings out emotions inside of me. I can't help but think its unfair, that I had spent over 100 bucks a year for team fees, tournament fees, regional qualifiers, and spent 2 hours a week afterschool for nearly the whole school year, 4 years in a row, and campaigned and proved that I was worthy to be an officer, and that in the end, we'll be getting the same merit when it comes down to college applications.</p>

<p>I was never a prominent debater, I never got past section qualifiers, and never won awards or anything. But I was a part of National Forensics League, which is my proof, to the colleges, that I was actually a debater.</p>

<p>I dont know whether to be mad or not, but I feel really cheated, and want to know, will the colleges know that I actually gave my word, while my friend did not, or will we just be equals when it comes to debate team?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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<p>Give an anonymous tip off to your counselor</p>

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<p>Unless you applied to the same college(s), I’d let it go. From here it sounds like your only motivation for joining debate was extrinsic anyway, in which case you shouldn’t be getting much credit either.</p>

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<p>Telling someone could really get your friend into a LOT of trouble, as in no college for your friend for being dishonest. I’m not sure that’s the best thing to do to someone no matter how much s/he might deserve it. Have you confronted your friend about this? You should if you haven’t already…Idk the extent of your relationship entirely but it sounds like you guys are really good. What you choose to do is completely dependent on how much you value your friendship with that person.</p>

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<p>You really don’t want to be responsible for ruining someone’s life unless they have done a truly horrible thing - and this is not even close. This kind of ratting out has ways of biting you back in the behind so my advice would be to just let it go. I would however think long and hard about being such close friends with a dishonest person.</p>

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<p>Karma, baby–you can let it go. This “stylistic” of your friend will land in him more turbulent waters than lying about debate club membership.</p>

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I forgot to mention this, but it’s a great point.</p>

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<p>I’ve gone through this same exact thing; my one friend with her 3.5 GPA got into Fordham over my 3.8 GPA friend because she lied about her extracurriculars A LOT. this is a girl who didn’t do ANYTHING, and she filled in all 12 (?) spots on her Common App with fake things.</p>

<p>I didn’t do anything because I knew what the repercussions would be if I said anything to my other friend who was deferred. Also it didn’t really affect me, but I can understand how indignant I’d be.</p>

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<p>If I have a friend do this…</p>

<p>I’m ***** slapping some sense into them.</p>

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<p>Academic integrity is a relic from a time gone by.</p>

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<p>Colleges may find out he lied, they may not. And you’re right, it is unfair.</p>

<p>But focus on what YOU got out of it that he didn’t. You got 4 years of fun (don’t tell me it wasn’t!). You learned how to speak in public. You learned how to construct arguments, and how to tear them down. You got the respect of your peers, since they elected you to be an officer. You made friends from other schools. You learned how to speak 97mph. I bet you learned how to flip a pen. You belonged to a team. You learned what “incrementalism” means. </p>

<p>It always bites when it seems like someone gets something for nothing - and it’s true that he might get something. But, you got a lot more.</p>

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<p>If it were me, I would be livid. I’d probably anonymously report this to a counselor, and laugh when the “friend” gets rejected to every college he applies to. I don’t believe in karma or whatever, though.</p>

<p>The above post makes a good point - you got a lot more out of it. But colleges don’t really see that, do they?</p>

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You didn’t get into Fordham but you’re going to Penn??</p>

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<p>Report your friend. It’s not only you he could beat for a spot in the class of 2015 – there are plenty of other people he might ruin.</p>

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<p>@hume15: she said “over my 3.8 GPA FRIEND”</p>

<p>You have a tendency of speaking without thinking first. Not exactly a quality worthy of a username bearing the name “hume”</p>

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<p>But it’ll be fair to tell on him and potentially ruin his life?</p>

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<p>@system: It’s actually an understandable mistake since daretorun said “I’ve gone through this same exact thing” (which generally indicates that the person making the statement is the victim).</p>

<p>As for the OP, I personally would not do anything since it could impact your friend extremely negatively. If your friend does not deserve to go to a certain school and gets in (and attends), it will show in his future endeavors. What’s important is that you learned some great skills while in debate and will be able to apply them for the rest of your life; people who lie about their skills and do not produce generally hit a brick wall at some point later in life.</p>

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<p>I understand the mistake too, haha probably bad diction on my part. I meant I understood how outraged she felt. Although I wasn’t personally cheated, it still makes me angry that a close friend of mine was.</p>

<p>Particularly if you two won’t be competing head-to-head at the same schools, I wouldn’t make a big deal. But, if he put that he was President or something and you’re the ~actual President and you’re applying to the same schools as he is, then that could be something you want to make a move on because it could potentially affect BOTH of your admissions. But that’s the only situation that I would do something.</p>

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I’ll give you that first point, but what could possibly merit the second?</p>

<p>And in all honesty, do you really expect people to carefully consider every post they make on a board as random as HSL?</p>

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<p>sounds like your friend is a complete duchbag…
If I were you I’d confront him and be like what the **** man why the **** are you doing that? If you guys were really that close, then he shouldn’t be offended</p>