<p>Hello,
I'm an international student applying for Fall 2012. (Class of 2016) I need to get a full-ride aid.
Here are my accomplishments:</p>
<p>SAT I: 1670 (Superscore 1690) 660/640/390 (Will take again in May/January)
SAT II: Registered for June
TOEFL: 55/120 (8 months ago. Retaking in one week)
Income(both altogether): Less than 13000$
GPA: Middle School: 71/100
High School: No final grades yet
Major: Engineering, Aerospace, Aeronautics. </p>
<p>Chances?</p>
<p>I’m confused…you say you have no high school grades yet…only middle school…but you are applying for admission to college for fall 2012? Most students applying for college admission her for fall 2012 are currently high school juniors, meaning they are currently completing their THIRD year of high school. Could you please clarify this?</p>
<p>Getting a full ride is going to be difficult for you at this current time with your current stats. You need to understand that there are VERY few full rides overall even for citizens of the U.S. There are even less for international applicants. If your high school grades are 71/100 (comparable to your middle school grades) and your SAT super score is in the 1670 range, I can’t think of a school that would give you (or even a U.S. applicant with the same stats) a full ride. </p>
<p>The schools that meet full financial need for all admitted INTERNATIONAL students are amongst the most competitive for admissions. At this point, your competitiveness for admissions to these highly competitive schools is doubtful. These schools deny admittance to a VERY high percentage of extremely well qualified applicants.</p>
<p>What to do?? Well…both your grades AND your standardized test scores need to soar. You might also want to consider looking at schools within your own country for undergraduate school…and do VERY well there. Then perhaps grad school here could be a choice.</p>
<p>(I presume you aren’t lying or anything)</p>
<p>Ummm your stats are average. So I guess your chances will be quite low for getting in let alone getting a full ride.</p>
<p>I suggest applying to some very low ranked schools if finance is that big a problem for you.</p>
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Yes. I can. In my country we have only 2 possible years of the High School. I’m in the first right now. I didn’t say I don’t have “grades” I said that I don’t have final exam grades right now. My current grades are average. But I still have time to improve my SAT scores.</p>
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And I suggest you to stop making stupid advice. It’s not even an option for me. I will apply for Penn, Washington-U, WPI, Purdue, and others I don’t know yet.</p>
<p>P.S and my SAT is NOT average. Average is a 1500, if you didn’t know.
260 point increase in 1.5 months! Go and envy me!!! </p>
<p>WR 89%
M 87%
R 11%</p>
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And I assume you didn’t meet the New Year earlier than it is with a bottle of beer.</p>
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you better go and repeat what the average is before making a suggestion</p>
<p>Thumper1 was kind to you.</p>
<p>I didn’t really see any accomplishments.</p>
<p>Schools that met full need for international students are usually the very competitive ones. Your SAT is not high enough to be competitive for admissions at these schools.</p>
<p>Very few US schools offer merit aid to internationals. Schools that offer merit aid usually offer it to students that are in the very top few % points stats wise of their students. A 1670 is probably not high enough for much merit aid eligibility, let alone a full ride.</p>
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You don’t understand! I have 10 moths before I will apply for the US Universities!!!</p>
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And I didn’t really care what you have seen.</p>
<p>Well if you. Can make yourself one of the top students in your country in 10 months with international level accomplishments, you may earn a free ride.</p>
<p>I never understand why those who can’t handle the truth post. I hope you have backups you love at home.</p>
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Are you out of your mind? Students with a 2200 SAT and 800/800/800 SAT II get full-ride! So will I!!!</p>
<p>Please, OP, don’t be prickly. Here is a “typical” applicant for a place like MIT</p>
<p>SAT: 800/750/700
SAT II Subject Test Math 1: 780 Math 2: 790 Physics: 800 French: 720
(Note, multiple tests, all strong)
GPA: 3.9 to 4.0
Extracurricular activities: Debate Team captain (not just on the team, but the leader), Tennis Team co-captain (here we are seeing that the student is well rounded – not just an academic), Volunteer of the Year, local Food Bank (here we are seeing that the student gives back to the community – and in a very dedicated way)
Letters of reference: filled with “top of the class” or “the best student of my career” sorts of phrases. </p>
<p>This is your competition here for our finest schools. It is brutal. Not everyone works at that level at age 17 (it can be a horrific, punishing pace that leaves little time for fun or family). Some people are brilliant and worthwhile but will not be dazzling until they are 22 or 24 (come to graduate school!). </p>
<p>The best path is to take a mature assessment of what it takes to be a serious candidate (otherwise you waste the $75 application fee) and, if your numbers won’t equal what I posted, then 1)Know that you are worthwhile and 2) look for a path that builds upon your strengths and gives you joy. Keep in mind that one path might be to growth in strength for a year or two at a local college and then apply to the states. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that some schools want to see Three SAT II tests – and most students only take two on a single day. You may need another SATII testing day scheduled. </p>
<p>Good luck. There are 4000 colleges in the US, many who welcome international students. Most internationals apply only to our top 20 schools and turn their noses up at the other 3880 schools. Money is very, very tight right now – so little aid is available throughout the country.</p>
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I am sure that there is a reason why international students “turn their noses up” at other universities.
My GPA isn’t high so I’m sure it will be like A’s and B’s…something like 80/100
I plan to retake the SAT for 2200+
I plan to take 3 SAT II’s for 750+
EC: *School’s art amateur
* UN’s finalist
* Personal exhibition
Future EC: *space research
*articles about my major
Recommendations: 2 teachers</p>
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OP? What’s that?</p>
<p>Suleyman95 your information is out of date. We entered a brutal economic downturn in 2008. Many colleges saw their endowments dive in value. Colleges like MIT, Dartmouth and Yale had promised great financial aid to their 2007 students found themselves retrenching and making over their award systems. The colleges just didn’t have the money anymore. </p>
<p>It has gotten so bad that students have had to borrow thousands (hundreds of thousands) of dollars to graduate. There is much concern by economists that the student debt load is going to crash our economy yet again. Britain also has had to raise student costs – so much so that they have had student riots. </p>
<p>It is a very horrible time economically. Please do check out more on line about US student debt. If you are adept in languages, there might be more opportunity in Germany, which has weathered the economic downturn much better.</p>
<p>OP = Original Poster</p>
<p>@Olymom
OMG. I’m so sorry to hear about that :(</p>
<p>Suleyman-
As painful as it may be, you really need to assess what you are doing. The top 20 universities are reaches for many students in the US with WAY higher stats that don’t need full financial aid. While it may be upsetting to hear, it’s the truth –> you just don’t qualify.
I’m sure there are many universities in your country that would accept you, and if you are willing to not “turn your nose up” then you could still look at.</p>