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First, I’m not still applying. I have 10 months to go. Just compare: 10 months ago my English was cat/dog.
Second, I don’t think that I’m worse than many US students. On the contrary, I think that NEITHER of US students would make the increase that I made, being an international student. Moreover, the US students are 18 years old!
Third, I know people who got accepted ONLY with TOEFL!!!</p>
<p>Suleyman95 you are choosing to be offensive and people are trying to help you see (after all, we are here and living within the system that you want to join). </p>
<p>“Low ranked” colleges are not “schools of ditch digging and taxi driving” – they may exist to serve a local population with services that are locally needed. For instance, Minot State in North Dakota is a small college in a very cold climate. The school is accredited (meets national standards) and has a strong program in nursing degrees and services to the deaf. Those two career paths (nursing, services for the deaf) may not be your career path but it would wrong (and rude) of you to sneer at someone who DID want to be a nurse or a teacher to the deaf. </p>
<p>A small campus like Minot State might find a student from another country to be an interesting and important addition to the campus (part of going to college is to meet people from all over) – so a school like that one might offer tuition waivers or other aid to an international student. </p>
<p>That sort of school might be “low ranked” in national standings because it only has few course paths --NOT because the classes are of poor quality. In fact, many people have found that smaller colleges offer BETTER education than the huge schools because it is easier to interact with the professors and easier to get internship/jobs to get the needed training. </p>
<p>One school in North Dakota offers flight training – I forget which one, but I do know that it is considered one of the best flying programs in the world. Go sneering at one of those pilots that they attended a “low ranked” school (which it might be if all they do is flying) and you might end up with . . . egg on your face. You would sound both arrogant and ignorant. </p>
<p>This college stuff is very complex. Please learn more.</p>
<p>Yeah…sure…but my SAT scores are not “low ranked”. 87%-89%
What? North Dakota? About what are you talking?
I will apply for Embry-Riddle, U-PeNN, WPI, Purdue, Washington U, NY U, JHU, others idk.</p>
<p>No one is saying you can’t be accepted at a decent US college, just that it is very unlikely you will get the kind of financial aid you need. </p>
<p>While brushing up on your English vocabulary, be sure to give particular consideration to the word “humility”.</p>
<p>And one question emerges: Will you suggest your child to go to such universities, like North Dakota?</p>
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Don’t you understand that I will apply in 10 months?!</p>
<p>Yes, we all understand that in 10 months you expect to be the most incredible international student who has ever applied to a US college. We can’t wait to hear about all the elite schools that offered you a full ride. Be sure to let us know.</p>
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<p>Sarcasm never proves true. + say for yourself.</p>
<p>What you don’t understand is that 10 months is nothing in creating the kind of profile a top US college is looking for. This is not like the situation in many countries where college admission is about a single test or grades from a single year.</p>
<p>US colleges will have a hard look at your last 4 years. Explanations about falling down on tests will not matter to them. To get what you’re looking for in terms of admissions and money, they will need to see sustained excellent grades and accomplishments over years.</p>
<p>And you need to do your homework. NYU, for example, does not have a cent in aid, much less free rides, for internationals.</p>
<p>As for our kids going to schools like N. Dakota, many of them do and get fine educations. About 1% of Americans attend top colleges, the other 99% find many other good places to get an education.</p>
<p>I think all of us here can tell you honestly and factually that your chances of getting a free ride at any of the schools you name are less than 1%. most have no free rides, and the ones where it could be possible would want perfect grades and scores and an extraordinary, national/ international level EC.</p>
<p>You even didn’t answer to my question:Will you suggest your child to go to such universities, like North Dakota?</p>
<p>@2college2college
So you’d like to see your child in “other” universities?</p>
<p>Yes, if they have your stats.</p>
<p>I’d make sure my kids were being realistic, which you are not. Penn does not meet need for internationals, the vast majority there are full pay. Those they give money to are truly extraordinary-- those who’ve won top international competitions and the like.</p>
<p>What country are you from?</p>
<p>How can you remain so naive about what it takes with over 900 posts?</p>
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So you think that your kinds are/will be smarter than I am? A? Is that what you say?</p>
<p>How about WPI? Embry-Riddle?</p>
<p>On the shore of Caspian Sea</p>
<p>Penn only gives financial aid based on financial NEED. However, the first hurdle for everyone who wants aid from Penn is to get ACCEPTED at Penn. This poster is not a likely candidate for acceptance to Penn…but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t apply…ditto any other of the Ivy League or very generous schools.</p>
<p>Suley…you are asking a question about AID here. What we are telling you is that the schools on your list Embry, Purdue, etc…do NOT have extensive financial aid for all accepted students. They don’t meet full need for all students. Their merit awards go to top applicants (those who have demonstrated excellent academic standing throughout their high school years, not just the last 10 months). These kids also have TOP SAT scores, not just above average. </p>
<p>So…hurdle one…find schools here where YOUR stats are above the 25%ile of all accepted students. Second hurdle, find a school in that batch that guarantees to meet the need of all accepted students, or find a school that will guarantee you a full ride merit award based on your GPA and standardized test scores. </p>
<p>Also, another thing for you to consider MOST schools are not need blind for international students. This means that your ability to PAY the cost of attending will be considered when your application for admission is considered.</p>
<p>It’s not about how smart you are, it’s about how well you’ve performed over time. My son was admitted to an ivy ED. He spent the last 4 years earning near perfect grades, getting near perfect scores and leading youth government groups in our large city. Many smarter than he did not make it into top schools. And we’re full pay.</p>
<p>If your son was in my situation he would never did things like I did.</p>
<p>Suleyman, I really see a pattern. You think you are wonderful–excuse me, in 10 months you will be wonderful–and America’s leading universities will fall all over themselves to pay all your costs so you can grace them with your presence. Americans who have a lot of experience with admissions and financial aid in American colleges and universities think you are mistaken, and they tell you so. So you abuse them. </p>
<p>I’ve noticed that when you’re trying to decide whether you’re wrong, or the entire rest of the world is wrong, it usually isn’t the entire rest of the world.</p>
<p>Well, I think it’s OK to dream big as long as you’re prepared to be disappointed big, too. This poster chose his screen name with some thought, I guess. See the link below:
[Suleiman</a> the Magnificent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_Magnificent]Suleiman”>Suleiman the Magnificent - Wikipedia)</p>