<p>OP,</p>
<p>Perhaps you can list among your ECs the most irritating international poster on CC. That might get you some attention.</p>
<p>Guys let’s show some hospitality here. OP is here to learn – education can be done kindly too (and we can lead by example). </p>
<p>To answer an earlier question: Would I send my kid to North Dakota for college?</p>
<p>YES! If the kid was interested in flying or nursing, then North Dakota has some excellent programs. Also, ND is one of the few states that come through the economic meltdown well. Companies in the midwest are hiring a whole lot more than companies on either coast. </p>
<p>Why isn’t my kid in ND? Well, one is nearly finished on the east Coast (Yippee!) and the other chose a small, happy college in our home state (Western Washington University – not on any Top 100 lists for US colleges – but a beautiful place with caring staff and some excellent programs – particularly for educators and for marine biologists). So, some other choices worked out well. </p>
<p>I have been blessed to travel some in the world. I think you can find excellence in all sorts of places. You can find hospitality and thoughtfulness and immense beauty. And, of course, the converse is true. In places that are surprising, one can find nastiness, small mindedness and greed. To me, one year in New York City covered all those bases. </p>
<p>What I want for the OP is a path forward to be able to evaluate objectively – both his own offerings and what is available. Hopefully he/she will share with other students in his area so that many become educated on the paths that are available and the doors that are closed (and what it takes to get them open).</p>
<p>IBTL</p>
<p>This thread is so full of win.</p>
<p>To the members of CC, I suggest you stop wasting your efforts on the OP. It’s clear after numerous attempts to answer his/her question, he/she has responded with nothing but ignorant gibberish.</p>
<p>To the OP, get a life.</p>
<p>For flying the best university is Embry-Riddle. I will go to university that would give me full-ride aid.</p>
<p>regardless of internationals. but they are need aware to foreign students meaning if you ask for aid, your chance of admission is reduced. but if they let you in, they meet your need.</p>
<p>I don’t understand why education is so expensive? In my view, education should be FREE!</p>
<p>Education in the US is very expensive, because it is very labor intensive. Professors at research universities teach few classes. Professors at Liberal Arts Colleges tend to have small classes.
Professors at Community Colleges are frequently underpaid adjuncts. I think the European model of education has more large lecture hall classes.
The US wants internationals who can pay full tuition costs.
Endowments and household wealth in the US are down by 20-30%. One third of homeowners owe more on their homes than the current market value. There isn’t a lot of cash to help students at private or public universities.
I think internationals are better of attending in their own country and coming here for graduate school.</p>
<p>Ok. Let us consider a low ranked college that requires only TOEFL for internationals and SAT 1250 for residential applicants. With income 13.000$ and SAT 2000+ I can get aid, can’t I?</p>
<p>It depends on the school. The overwhelming majority of schools in the US are not need blind to international students. This means that your ability to pay will be a factor in the admissions process.</p>
<p>The majority of schools in the US do not meet 100% demonstrated need regardless of one’s citizenship. Payign for college is a financial stretch for most families</p>
<p>Most low ranked schools do not offer financial aid to international students. They usually rely on federal and state aid and that does not anywhere near cover the cost for low income US students, and of course is not available to international students. You would need to check each school very carefully to see if they even offer aid (merit or need based) to Internationals.</p>
<p>I believe that fewer than 20 US universities promise to meet full need (as THEY determine need) for international students. Even the ones that meet full need may determine that your family should be able to contribute a significant sum each year, and that you can contribute some through summer earnings. True “full rides” for international students are very uncommon.</p>
<p>Those few universities that do promise to meet full need are also very, very selective, and they admit a very small percentage of their international applicants. Those students who are admitted tend to have spectacular grades, standardized test scores, and accomplishments. Perhaps you know (or can learn) which students from your school were given full ride scholarships to major US universities in prior years, and from that better assess your own chances.</p>
<p>*I don’t understand why education is so expensive? In my view, education should be FREE! *</p>
<p>Tell that to your country.</p>
<p>And why exactly-even if you did have decent grades…should you get a full ride before a US Citizen or green card candidate ? What extraordinary talent do you bring to the table?</p>
<p>Actually I agree that college education should be either free or very affordable. Germany takes the notion that educating a young person for four years pays off handsomely in that the educated person earns better and pays out a lot more in taxes over a lifetime.
It’s a win-win situation. But this good deal is not open to everyone – a student has to have had the proper pre-college education and score very well on exams. </p>
<p>The US does not have that model at all. For us, the vast majority of citizens had no college for about the first 150 years of us being a nation. Only after WWII did things start to shift with the GI bill making college affordable for veterans (I also find it interesting that college was a successful path for young males who had several years of military life and were a bit older when they started college – in contrast to us currently burning up a lot of 18 year old males who may not really be ready for the free flow of college life). </p>
<p>Anyway, we are what we are. Very expensive. Not suitable right now for poor students from other countries. I’m sure there are a few who do make it – but I think a kid would be smarter right now to be a success in their home nation and come visit us with a thick wallet later.</p>
<p>I heard that if one receives a 2200 on his or her SAT I, then he or she would get a free-education.</p>
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<p>I am sorry to tell you, but you heard wrong. Even if you get a 2400 an American citizen probably won’t get a full ride. They might but there are no guarantees. An international student is far less likely, even with a 2400 and a 100/100 grade point average.</p>
<p>I have had children attend both Brooklyn College (a public college) and Colgate (a fairly elite private college). Maturity is learning to accept the limitations that life sometimes gives us and thriving within those limitations.</p>
<p>When my eldest daughter graduated from high school, the valedictorian was rejected by MIT - his top choice. The best students don’t always get accepted by the school they want to go to.</p>
<p>Good luck to you <em>hugs</em></p>
<p>*I heard that if one receives a 2200 on his or her SAT I, then he or she would get a free-education. *</p>
<p>Not in the US.</p>
<p>Will your country do this? If so, then you’ll have a free ride there.</p>
<p>OP as an international applicant or an applicant in general students get too enamored with top 20 schools or Ivies. Growing up I only heard about top schools like Princetown or Harvard at first. However, throughout high school, I’ve visited over 20 schools. I’ve been to prestigious universities such as UC Berkeley, Stanford and USC. In fact I’ve enjoyed my visits to privates and states more than these top schools. There are many factors to colleges besides prestige and rankings.</p>
<p>As deflating as it might sounds an Ivy may not be right for you and it’s not certainly all that its cracked out to be. When considering a college, Ivy & other top 20 schools are great collectively but some of their programs that you are interested may not be as well taught or top ranked among the US. For example there is a very high ranked aviation school at Delaware state, collectively the school might not be as prestigious as MIT but the aviation program is better than MIT’s and you’ll receive a superior education in this regard. It also is easier to get into.</p>
<p>I commend you for starting to search for schools early. Try using collegeboard’s college search. Or try collegenavigator - [College</a> Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/]College”>College Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics)</p>
<p>You could also look for some college search tools for international students. These sites may be a better precursor for you and show what other people on this thread said before is true.</p>
<p>As for your scores, I agree your English has come a long way from where you said you were 9 months ago. It shows your a quick, dedicate learner and thats something you can talk about in your applications. For your SAT scores its definitely possible for you to get >2000. Try taking the ACT, it might be an easier test & result in better scores. As for you saying your score percentile as an 89% is very good, keep in mind this may be 89% in your country. Your an international applicant, your not just compared to students in the US and your own country, you have to distinguish yourself against students WORLDwide. I can assure you that 89% would be more like a 60-65% in american state schools.</p>
<p>As for a free education, there are some schools in the US that meet 100% of financial need, with or without loans. You’ll have to check if this applies to international students such as yourself. It is going to be easier to get the funds you need at a little known private or maybe even a state versus an Ivy. Especially if you won’t qualify for merit aid.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that Internationals are at the lowest position in the hierarchy for admissions and education funding and that the US is still feeling the effects from the recession. Even US Students with 2200+ SAT scores are being forced to take out loans if they want to go to Ivy Schools when in fact they probably would receive better aid at a private or state college. US student loan debt is also nearing 1 Trillion dollars. </p>
<p>If you are still however dead set on attending an ivy with full financial aid your best bet is to transfer from another college in America after a year or two. You’ll still have to look for a lot of scholarships and you’ll have to maintain a high GPA as a transfer student.</p>
<p>Your a very ambitious person, but don’t let the idea of some loans deter you from your goals if you do not get the aid you need. Don’t also get too ahead of yourself and let your nerves overlook logic. Good Luck.</p>
<p>Ok. Thanks!
I am just looking for college that can give me full-ride 4 year education. Estimated application:
SAT: 2000
SAT II: MathI/MathII/Physics
TOEFL: 90-100
GPA 80/100
Recommendations: 2 teachers
EC: art amateur, personal exhibition, 60+ paintings on oil canvas, UN’s finalist, school’s talented student, weather research, space articles.</p>
<p>[US</a> University Search for International Students - college-search - College Confidential](<a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_search/us_university_search.htm]US”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_search/us_university_search.htm)</p>