<p>Well I will be applying ED, BUT I need almost a full tuition ride to attend Dartmouth. Will that be a really big disadvantage and lead to my rejection?</p>
<p>Just curious because I read somewhere that Colleges mostly take in students who can pay.</p>
<p>And does anyone here know of a case similar to mine? you know got a really big aid package + International + ED?</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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BUT I need almost a full tuition ride to attend Dartmouth. Will that be a really big disadvantage and lead to my rejection?
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<p>This may end up hurting you no matter which cycle you apply in because Darmouth is not need blind to international students so your ability to pay will be a factor in the admissions decision. Also keep in mind when some one is applying ED, they are basically saying that they will attend regardless of the amount of aid they receive. To me it seems that you are financially in a postion to do this so ED may not be the best decision for you.</p>
<p>Actually, with Dartmouth, if your package is not sufficient, you can be released from the early commitment. I'm not sure if you lose your admission though.</p>
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What happens if the financial aid package doesn't seem as though it will work for my family?
You should submit a Request for Financial Aid Review, (which will be included with the award letter), to the Financial Aid Office as soon as possible. No student admitted to Dartmouth through Early Decision is locked in and unable to receive the best financial aid package. If a student and family cannot manage the financial arrangements, we routinely release them from the early commitment so they can apply to other colleges in a timely fashion. In recent years only a tiny handful of Early Decision students have been unable to attend for financial reasons.
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<p>we routinely release them from the early commitment so they can apply to other colleges in a timely fashion.</p>
<p>When you ask to be released you are asking to be relieved of your ED commitment because you are stating that you cannot afford to attend, which means you are giving up your spot (remember it is the college that determines your need , not what you or your parents think that you should pay).</p>
<p>because the ivies share ED information, it is unlikely if you will be admitted in to one of those either. they state in their joint statement that they will not admit a student who was admitted ED at a member school).</p>
<p>there goes my damn college....</p>
<p>any suggestions? </p>
<p>I feel like crap. Just because I am not rich I cant go to College...</p>
<p>And why would other Ivies refuse admission if they can fund me? As it is College must be deciding the need of a student on some basis. darn! I DONT KNOW! But as far as I remember, Dartmouth states that it is going to meet the full need of every student it admits.</p>
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From <a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/apply/admissions/international/index.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.dartmouth.edu/apply/admissions/international/index.html</a></p>
<p>Due to the limited resources available for financial aid, Dartmouth must take the financial resources of international applicants into account when making admissions decisions. Dartmouth provides financial aid to all admitted students who demonstrate financial need and will meet 100% of that demonstrated need.
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Forumla For Calculating Need</p>
<p>STUDENT BUDGET
- (PARENT CONTRIBUTION + STUDENT CONTRIBUTION = FAMILY CONTRIBUTION)
= FINANCIAL NEED
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Dartmouth states that it is going to meet the full need of every student it admits.
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<p>Keepin mind that need blind (is an admissions process) and fulfilling demonstrated need is a financial aid process).</p>
<p>The operative word here is admits so yes, Dartmouth will meet 100% of your demonstrated need (they determine your need) for every student it admits. However, for international students your ability to pay is a criteria for admission.</p>
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And why would other Ivies refuse admission if they can fund me?
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AJ, think about what you are saying here. It not a matter of refusing you admission if they can fund you, the pool is an extremely competitive one as it is and you are talking about a private university who is under no obligation to provide you or any one else with a free (or pretty close to free) education.</p>
<p>so I should apply during the RD decision round?</p>
<p>Well during the ED the possible cases I see is that if I get accepted they meet my need. Or they defer me to have a look again during the RD. BUT if they reject me I wont be able to get into any other Ivy?</p>
<p>What do you suggest?</p>
<p>ok ok I got it wrong there.</p>
<p>Now tell me should I apply ED or not? If not why? :)</p>
<p>Keep in mind the bulk of the applicants apply during RD. The majority of ED applicants are hooked (recruited athletes, legacies, developmental admits and a couple of URM applicants, international applicants who can pay full freight) unhooked applicants admitted ED are most likely at the top of the applicant pool.</p>
<p>If this is not your case, the school already knows that they are going to get a lot of strong applicants in the RD round.</p>
<p>haha</p>
<p>on one side you tell me about the bulk of the apps during RD then you tell me about who get admitted during ED :D</p>
<p>AJ,</p>
<p>I think that the most important thing is for you to make an informed decision and to go into this with your eyes open.</p>
<p>The facts are:</p>
<p>Approximately 30% of the class is admitted during ED (for the class of 2011- 1287 applicants, 382 admissions).</p>
<p>Most of the students admitted during ED are recruited athletes (remember coaches want to ensure players for their rooster especially in their big sports like basketball, football, hockey, skiing, baseball, crew, lax and the list goes on) 120 students, 31% of the students admitted ED in the class of 2011 are recruited athletes.</p>
<p>Like most schools students who are legacies use this tip during the ED process (they want to show that the college is overwhelming their first choice, they want to continue the family tradition). Remember the donations of the alumni, parents, grandparents, etc is what keeps students who are not able to pay full freight in institutional aid. 58 students, 15% of the students admitted ED in the class of 2011 are legacies.</p>
<p>70 students, 18% of the students admitted ED in the class of 2011 are people of color</p>
<p>Right here you have 248 students ~ 65% of the ED admitted class.</p>
<p>now out of the 134 spots left toss in :</p>
<p>Developmental admits (children of the big $$ donors) are more likely to apply to ED.</p>
<p>Stellar students whose (many who are full freight payers, including internationals) are more likely to apply ED.</p>
<p>Once you subtract these students, there are very few spots for bright unhooked students (especially international students needing a lot of $$)</p>
<p>About 12,889 students applied RD for the class of 2011.</p>
<p>So rounding it up what are you trying to say that I shouldnt apply ED and go for RD?</p>
<p>You should apply to whatever pool that you want. However, keep in mind that most people think that applying ED is an "easier" way to get admitted but don't realize tht 65% of the spots are already taken. </p>
<p>DOn't sweat it because after all is said and done, you will end up where you need to be.</p>
<p>I need to be at Dartmouth :)</p>
<p>Thank You for everything sybbie719!</p>
<p>apply ed. if you get in, dartmouth meets your need. if you don't, you'll just apply to other colleges rd. remember college admissions is the biggest crapshoot on the planwet</p>
<p>one overlooked advantage to RD is the ability to send offers from other colleges to dartmouth.</p>
<p>Need as calculated by dartmouth does not always match need as calculated by you (or other schools)</p>
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one overlooked advantage to RD is the ability to send offers from other colleges to dartmouth.
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<p>I didnt quite get that.</p>
<p>I need almost a full tuition ride. My parents earn around $8000/yr. So I dont think they would give me less aid if they take me in.</p>
<p>my parents earn around that much, i'll pm you the details of my aid package if it helps.</p>
<p>My point was, people just assume that when they apply ed, they will get all the money they need. Unfortunately that is not always so. This is because dartmouth looks at more than just the income to determine how much you pay.</p>
<p>I was admitted Regular Decision and able to send financial aid offers (from other colleges I was accepted to) to dartmouth and in turn dartmouth beat them out, giving me the highest amount of aid.</p>
<p>Then again, I was deferred ED, so take this as you may. Good Luck</p>