GA Resident Applying - Unsure about ED [3.79UW (please ignore typo in the post), 4.12W, 1420, 32]

Chance Me / Match Me!
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I still think UGA is possible, for a Georgia resident

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Never said it wasn’t possible. I’ve said all along it could happen - but I suspect it would be deferral - and one needs to have choices because if it’s a deferral and an acceptance, it would come late. We all know that late acceptance also turn into students turning down the school - as the student fell in love elsehwere.

OP has other schools.

In the end, kids get into multiple schools and have to choose one so unless you only apply to one, the odds are likely you’re turning down - most turn down far more than they accept.

UGA is possible but I said not likely - and I believe that. Others may disagree and that’s ok too. I hope I’m wrong.

OP has a lot to think about - are NEU or Davidson really top choices that they want to ED, thus if accepted making UGA irrelevant?

Is it UGA or bust and if I have to go elsewhere two years so be it? And then ED is out.

Or do I want to ensure I have a four year experience somewhere - Auburn or suggestions to maybe add a couple- “safer” like a Bama, UTK, U of SC, or I still love Pitt (maybe based on her love of NEU).

Those are sort of the questions I see.

OP has enough to think about. Like all kids, it’s often over analysis - but better safe than sorry!!

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I do not agree on UGA or bust. I firmly believe that GSU->UGA is a great option.
She does not need ED to anywhere.

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I think your data is old. Wake’s overall acceptance rate has been 20 percent for the past two cycles according to the school. Case Western was 27 percent overall. But what pushes Wake to the low probability category is that 94 percent of the class is in top 20 percent of class and average ACT was a 33 and average SAT 1480 (though op may be able to bring test scores up).

I am going to part ways with others and encourage op to apply ED to her favorite low probability school, assuming she prefers it to her in state options. It may just push her over into the accepted pile.

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I am still waiting on my last SAT score and have ACT this weekend, so hopefully those will put me closer to average in that realm. Class rank is definitely a big issue for me as a candidate.

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Again - I’m just bringing up from her social aspect.

Agreed on ED, especially after reading the posts throughout but OP stated this in message two and I’m not sure where she currently stands:

forgot to mention - considering Northeastern for ED as well. But mainly leaning towards Davidson

Will add one more thing - per CDS, UGA doesn’t consider class rank. But in 2022 CDS (so a year old), they list 65% in the top 10% and 93% in the top quarter. The OP is at 36% so not even close. Does it matter given UGA says not considered? I don’t know - but again, why I have overall trepidation.

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Do you know if schools look at any senior grades for admissions? If I were deferred EA from UGA would they consider my senior grades as part of my GPA? I’ve been trying to research but can’t find anything on it.

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You are so focused on UGA - that you definitely shouldn’t ED :slight_smile:

Yes, they would look at first semester grades and you have great rigor. In essence, you’d be deferred to RD:

WHY APPLY REGULAR DECISION?

Regular Decision provides applicants an opportunity to be reviewed at a later date in UGA’s admission cycle. This gives students additional time to add any updated test scores, include first semester senior year grades, and add any additional supporting documents.

There are so many great schools out there, UGA included but not just UGA. You are falling in love. Don’t fall in love. If you lived in Oklahoma, you might have a crush on Oklahoma. Or Maine, you might love U Maine.

Don’t fall in love. Your stats give you the opportunity to attend so many find schools. Take your shot but you need insurance - just in case. It may be Auburn is enough (get that app in by the 9/15 deadline).

Relax - you’ve got this. We can over analyze this to death but you’ll only know when you know.

I’m simply saying - get some insurance.

If you want to two year and transfer, that’s your choice - go ahead. But you’ve earned the four year opportunity if you want it - and fortunately, you can afford it.

Best wishes


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All in all I want to ED because I’d prefer a private education or somewhere smaller, but I’m focused on UGA because its my top public choice and I know my dream schools are generally unlikely, even with ED. I am aware there are other safer options for smaller/private schools
 I guess I need to be more open minded.

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Seems you are getting some unhelpful advice. There is nothing wrong with transferring to UGA if that is what comes to be at the end of your application cycle. Plenty of students successfully transfer schools all the time. And probably several of your HS classmates will be attending UGA so if this came to be, you would likely know several people already there if you transferred.
Best of luck to you. You sound like you will do well wherever you land.

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I indicated that College Navigator was giving me problems earlier, but the aggregator’s data I used was updated October 2022, using the Common Data Sets that applies to the entering class of 2021, as that was the most up-to-date CDS. As of the other day, that was also the latest info available on College Navigator.

As each school should be its best source of data (though it should be reflected in College Navigator, as the colleges submit that info to the feds), I see that Case Western and Wake Forest both have released their 2022-2023 Common Data sets.

Case Western CDS 21-22 (admission info for Fall 2021) indicates that 33,242 students applied, 10,049 were accepted, resulting in an overall acceptance rate of 30.2%. (The CDS did not break down admission rates for ED vs. RD.) Its 22-23 CDS (admission info for Fall 2022) indicates that 38,701 applied and 10,607 received acceptances, resulting in a 27.4% acceptance rate. Again, there was no breakdown here for ED vs. RD.

With respect to Wake Forest (to which I already concurred about categorizing it as low probability in the RD round), its 21-22 CDS showed a 25.1% overall rate and its 22-23 CDS showed a 21.4% overall acceptance rate.

As the 22-23 Common Data Sets are just now being released, pretty much all sources still have the 21-22 sets. Do you have a source that has all the data for the fall 2022 cycle or even now the 2023 cycle (which would not be surprising to see admission rates continuing to drop)? Or are you going to each individual school’s website? I’d love to know of any additional resources to be as up-to-date as possible.

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If you’re looking for some safer options, these are some that you may want to consider:

Extremely Likely (80-99+%)

  • Augustana (IL): About 2300 undergrads, if you’re looking for a more intimate program. Offers nearly all the majors you’re interested in (apart from linguistics) and you’re likely to get very good merit aid here, too.

  • Baldwin Wallace (OH): About 2700 undergrads. Again, offers nearly all the majors apart from linguistics, and I think you’d get good merit aid as well.

  • Duquesne (PA ): About 5100 undergrads and offers many of the majors you’re interested in.

  • Lebanon Valley (PA ): About 1600 undergrads. Offers all the majors you’re interested in except for linguistics.

  • Marquette (WI): About 7300 undergrads and offers many of the majors you’re interested in.

  • Moravian (PA ): About 1900 undergrads. Offers all the majors you’re interested in except for linguistics.

  • Nazareth (NY): About 2k undergrads. Offers many of the majors you’re interested in.

  • U. of Kansas: This school of about 19k undergrads offers just about everything you’re interested in studying, and it also appears to have a good dance program as well. You’d get solid merit here, too. In a comparison of the 50 flagships by ratio of the number of undergrads earned by alumni between 2000-2018, KU came in at #12.

Likely (60-79%)

  • Texas Christian: About 11k undergrads, offers almost all of your majors of interest (except for linguistics) and seems to have good dance options as well.

Toss-Up (40-59%)

  • Baylor (TX): About 15k undergrads and offers all the majors you’re interested in.
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Ooh -Texas Christian is an interesting suggestion. I know two dancers who chose TCU. I could see that as a school OP might like more than a few on her original list.

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Do you know how important religion is there? I am Catholic but not the most religious.

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Despite “Christian” being in its name, TCU is not religious like Hillsdale or Liberty, or even religious like Wheaton (IL) or Campbell. In fact, there is no mention of any deity in its mission, values, and vision (source).

Our Mission, Vision & Values

Mission
The mission of Texas Christian University, a private comprehensive university, is to educate individuals to think and act as ethical leaders and responsible citizens in the global community through research and creative activities, scholarship, service, and programs of teaching and learning offered through the doctoral level.

Vision
To be a world-class, values-centered university

Values
At TCU, we value:

Academic and personal achievement

Intellectual inquiry and the creation of knowledge

Artistic and creative expression

A heritage of service in pursuit of the greater good

Personal freedom and integrity

The dignity of and respect for the individual

Active appreciation for the array of human experience and the potential of every human being

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It happens that both of the dancers I know who attended (from different states) were also Catholic but I would not describe them as regular attendees at services, etc.

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I always look at the school’s site for the class of 2026 and 2027, typically press release or admissions blog, although good to know that some of the data sets are now out for the former. It’s crazy how quickly competitiveness of admissions is changing in the test optional world with acceptance rate dropping 5 percentage points or more a year at some schools, Clemson, for example, has seen some really extraordinary drops.

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Thanks for the info!

I think I know why College Navigator was having issues yesterday
as today, the data from schools I’ve been looking at is reflecting entrance for fall 2022, i.e. from the 22-23 common data sets.

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Surprised Emory hasn’t popped up.

Maybe look at FSU, South Carolina or NC State. State capitals and probably have more law firms for internships. Similar to schools on your list.

I think UGA is a logical choice. Good luck. Maybe look at all the pathways to UGA and GT besides Georgia State. Maybe something more appealing will pop up.

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I keep going back to this - and everyone is talking about UGA and Ga State, etc.

The initial goal included Davidson