Gap year then re-apply to school you were accepted at (in hopes of more merit)?

Hi there, sorry for the long post! Please help with this unique problem (or maybe not unique but I couldn’t find anything here) and please be kind, I know we should have known better since this isn’t our first rodeo, but it is what it is.

Our senior daughter has always planned on taking a gap year. She applied to schools this year hoping to find a good fit and defer enrollment, but has no idea what she wants to study and wasn’t all that into the effort of the apps. I’m not sure if that was because she is unsure about her future path, or because she wasn’t able to go on college visits during Covid, or because she knew she had the safety net of possibly applying to a new set of schools.

She is our last child of four. We are a single income family that most likely would fall into the donut hole of making too much for need-based aid, but not being able to afford sticker price very comfortably. We live in a very high cost of living city, are almost at retirement age, and financially (and otherwise) supported a sick parent through a long illness, which is why I had to quit work long ago.

Our older kids either went to the excellent state flagship or received enough merit at a private to make it equal to or below that cost. We weren’t exactly counting on lots of merit for our daughter, but she had what we thought was a bit of a spike in that she excels at music–state and national level awards, lots of performances and other recognition. We also figured that since she was the last one, we could stretch our finances and go above the cost of the state schools if there was a compelling reason to (like an unusually strong music program or something else she couldn’t get at our flagship). At the beginning, she wasn’t interested in our flagship because of the size. So she applied to LACs. Later on, her wish for a small school with small classes became even stronger. Given the kind of kid she is, we agree that an LAC would be the best fit, if not essential for her. Also many majors are now impacted at the state school, so she may not even get her desired major if she were to attend.

Her unweighted GPA is 3.97 and our school doesn’t weight or give class rank. She chose Dual Enrollment over AP, yet another possible “mistake” since we’ve since heard that DE isn’t considered as rigorous as AP or IB. She did take AP Physics this year, but again, another mistake in that she assumed it was the most rigorous but found out later that our school offers the one with Calc–she has had four counselors in four years, and counseling was almost non-existent during remote learning. Her senior year counselor was new to both the school and the state. Typical I guess for a large public. No one told her there was a more rigorous one I don’t think it was even on any form she could look at.

Her main extracurriculars were music with a little sports thrown in before the pandemic shut that down, and a small amount of volunteer hours. We realize now that this wasn’t enough and she should have “found” time to do more, but again, the pandemic made that difficult. So although she has six national level awards for her music, we think the lack of anything else also hurt her.

She applied test optional, which we realize was probably another misstep if we were looking for merit. Her recs were most likely not harmful but not all that helpful because she was remote the last half of sophomore year and all of junior year, and Dual enrollment which is still remote (!). So one teacher had never met her in person, and the other one just knew her for a few months. So except for a glowing rec from the music director, they were probably a wash.

I thought her common app essay was creative, but in hindsight it wasn’t very revealing about her except in a superficial way. Like I mentioned, she had a hard time putting the effort into the apps and also felt like she had nothing interesting to write about. I suggested she not apply this year at all, but she felt super anxious about putting it off. I’m thinking we may enlist a private essay tutor next time around.

Her results:
Rejected at her two reaches, T20s
Accepted at her four safeties (LACS ranked top 50-70) with fantastic merit
Accepted to her matches, two top 40s with some merit but still leaving a big price tag

One of the top 40 schools is a perfect fit in so many ways, but it also would probably take her 5 years to double major in music and academics, making it even more expensive in the end.

She really wants to commit to this school, but her dad wants her to reapply (to this school and a few others) during her gap year and make an effort to make her overall application stronger than it was this year, such as
–take the SAT (with tutoring)
–slightly Increased GPA because of last semester grades
–volunteering that she couldn’t do during lockdown
–better, more thoughtful essay in place of the breezy creative (dare I say shallow) one she submitted
–perhaps a re-worked rec from the AP Physics teacher that now has had her for a full year
–work experience (she didn’t work in HS or summers but has already started at a min wage job)

I’m not absolutely against this plan but it feels like its risky and stressful. My daughter would be on board because she knows the finances are difficult, but it would make her really anxious to risk being rejected from the school she feels is perfect for her. Also I never heard of anyone reapplying to a school they were accepted at, hoping for more merit.

I may have to work in order to send her to this school at the current price tag, and I have serious doubts about my ability to find work at my age, but I really want to make this happenn for her without messing up our retirement. I went to my state flagship (first person in my family to go to college) and really want a different experience for my daughter, plus I feel its the right place for her.

Any suggestions, advice, success or horror stories to share?

Thanks!

I would not reapply in hopes of getting more money.

What music major is she considering? Did she send in a music supplement? Did she get any merit money for her music talent?

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This sounds exactly like my kid…a little bit of sport…and tons of music related ECs both in and out of school. I think this profile is fine.

Your plan to increase merit at a place where she is accepted, declining now, and plans to apply again is very risky, in my opinion. First…what she presented to them this round was really fine. Second…merit is stats driven, and her HS GPA isn’t going to change that much. The SAT and ACT are supposed to be take during high school…not after HS graduation. I don’t think this will help.

And…there is no guarantee that she will be accepted next year. The application pools change every year. It’s possible that next year the group will be stronger. It happens.

Is there any chance she could choose one of those LACs that are affordable…and grow to love it? Surely there were reasons she chose to apply to these schools.

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As a first-born I see parents bending over backwards to explain / rationalize / justify going the extra mile for one kid in a way they didn’t / wouldn’t / couldn’t for the others.

As a parent I am more sympathetic-esp with the way the last 2 years have played havoc with the kid’s lives.

She could go with Plan A, take the gap year, doing whatever great thing she had planned and pick a comparable school to the one that she is now set on (but not go back to the same well). Or she could take one of her fantastic merit ones, and try to make a real go of it.

But imo a plan that financially depends on a person nearing retirement age, who has been out of the labor market for a decade or more, getting a job is going too far, even for the baby.

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Have you contacted the accepted school to see if there is any flexibility in merit ? How much more would be available if she received their top award - is that what you are hoping for if she reapplies? Does that make it affordable? Is the 5 year plan only at this school - as that is a lot of $$$.

Have you talked about her taking out student loans at $5500 for the 1st year and then increases slightly over 4 years ? If you are able, you could assist with the payback.

I find it odd she would reapply to the school vs requesting a Gap year and how that would explained in her app. Are you willing to contact the school and ask if she would be eligible for more merit next year if she took a gap and submitted a test score or ?

Also, like mentioned before - she has acceptances that are affordable. Did you visit and are any of those an option?

If you are comfortable with using school names, I am guessing you will get some feedback about the schools and maybe that would help hearing about the affordable ones.

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Many schools are lowering merit - especially the publics.

I don’t think taking DE was a mistake - it saves you money.

Your daughter is fine - I would see if you can get a deferral at the top choice and protect your scholarship.

I agree with others that in this situation I would not expect that reapplying for next year would bring any additional money from your daughter’s top choice LAC. It might, but probably will not. She might not even be accepted. This sounds like it could be a year of waiting and stress that is likely to result in no improvement.

The most obvious choice would be to attend one of the schools that came up with enough merit money to make them affordable. Another option would be to take the gap year and reapply next year, including applying to some new schools that are more likely to be affordable.

There are a LOT of liberal arts colleges to choose between. I do not see anything magical about a “top 40” LAC versus a “top 70” LAC.

If you and your spouse are getting near retirement age then taking on debt or digging into your retirement funds would be quite a bad idea.

If your daughter wants to take a gap year, then one issue might be that even for the schools that accepted her with significant merit money it is not certain whether the merit money would still be available if she were to defer for a year. You would need to ask and see. In this case taking a gap year and reapplying might make sense, but I would not expect the outcome to be any different.

Our youngest daughter wanted to attend a small school, such as what in the US would be called a “liberal arts college”. We found that the NPCs for the top LACs in the US (near where we live) predicted that they would be horribly unaffordable. We like you were close to retirement at the time that she was starting university. She ended up at a very good small university in Canada (we live far enough north in the US that Canada is not all that far away). We had special circumstances (dual citizenship) but the same schools are also quite affordable for International/American students. However, I do not see why these would be preferable for you compared to the LACs that have already offered your daughter merit aid. This daughter did graduate recently and find a very good job in the US.

Most students in the US are constrained by costs when they choose which university or college to attend. This is very normal.

I know quite a few “donut hole” families where the very strong kids are attending or recently graduated from in-state public universities. My company (who I worked at for many years, retired from but still consult to) hires a lot of them. Guess what, the hiring managers are also in the donut hole and are very well aware that very strong students often attend in-state public universities and then graduate and become very strong employees. I have worked with tons of them.

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It is somewhat analogous to reapplying to the same colleges that rejected the applicant the first time. Basically, your student was financially rejected (admitted, but too expensive), so this is basically reapplying to the same college that (financially) rejected your student the first time. These type of gap year reapplications tend not to be successful. In your student’s case, a likely result is another financial rejection (admitted, but too expensive).

Why not leave the college that financially rejected her behind and have her pick among the admissions with affordability?

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I agree with everyone, and if it hasn’t been mentioned, delaying entry delays graduation and thus costs one year of earnings.

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You know that age old saying of “A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush”?

That applies in your situation.

Kiddo should attend 1 of the schools she was accepted to. NOT risk throwing away the bird in hand in the hopes that she MIGHT get the 2 in the bush. Too risky.

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Thanks to everyone for their replies and perspectives.

This is an interesting way to look at it and something for us to think about! We were surprised her top pick didn’t offer a bit more for music, and it was disappointing, but music admissions and scholarships are based on the school’s needs and that year’s competition. Did they get too many piano players last round, do they need a mezzo soprano voice this year, etc. But of course that’s what makes reapplying risky.

DadTwoGirls, I agree there isn’t much difference between a top 40 or 70th ranked school, and we didn’t really go by rankings anyway, I only mentioned it because it was interesting to me how her rejections, acceptances and merit awards totally aligned with the rankings. In the case of our dilemma, it really is about fit, and not rank.

She was taking a gap year regardless of college outcomes, and she’s known that for two years.
Also we don’t really view the gap year in relation to missing a year of the earnings she will have over her lifetime.

Again, thank you all for chiming in. Lots to think about.

Collegemom, I totally get what you’re saying with how circumstances change over time and how it can appear unfair to siblings (I too am a first-born). But each kid was content and got what they needed/wanted. Kids differ in where they will thrive, and schools change as well. As I mentioned, it wouldn’t even be possible for my daughter to major in the STEM major that her brother got into after enrolling undeclared, because those majors are either direct-admit now with almost Ivy-low acceptance rates, or ten times more competitive than when he got in. Not a rationalization, but the stark reality of educational budget cuts, more and more top kids choosing the flagships due to cost, etc.

She should not try to improve her record and reapply. Even with a perfect SAT score, her results are not likely to be better, at least at the schools that she’s already had answers from.

I would seriously reconsider the entire idea of taking a gap year, unless she has plans for some amazing, life-changing experiences. She’s already a great student, doesn’t need to “grow up”, at least in terms of academic achievement. Frankly, unless she’s going to be doing something like going to live/study abroad to learn another language that she would need for her profession/career, is it really worth it? What would she be doing during that gap year, other than marking time at a low-paying job?

You and she should look very, very seriously at the LACs where she got fantastic merit. It doesn’t sound as if we’re talking conservatories leading to the chance of a performance career in music, so unless that “perfect fit” LAC is really the only one that would equip her for her intended career, is it really worth the extra money to all of you, for her to go there? Take another look at the two that gave her fantastic merit.

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If you haven’t already, call the school she wants to go to, and try to use those fantastic offers from the other LACs to get them to increase her merit award. You never know, they might increase their offer.

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Another vote for finding a way to make her current choices work for her. Re-applying is risky and of no value to your D.

You mentioned going back to work after a long time out of the work force for care-giving. Daunting as it may seem, this is a great time to try to get into the labor market. You could probably make a reasonable dent in the shortfall even with something that’s only part time and not terribly demanding. And after getting 4 kids through school, it might even be a nice change of pace. Just tossing that out there…

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The more selective the college, the less merit received (obviously this is a very simple way to look at it, but I have 5 kids, are way in the donut hole, 1 income, very high COL), my kids could stay in state or apply to less selective schools elsewhere and try for merit, all safeties (2 ended up at honors at OOS publics). They had test scores, we assumed they’d be admitted but scores still help with merit at some colleges.

no answers here; but i liked your original post. well thought out; and we sort of resemble your remarks. (we are on our last of 4 kids; donut hole income; trying to get back into the workforce, 4 elderly parents who cant drive) etc. But when reading through this, here are my first thoughts. 1)what does your d want to do? does she want to be at school? 2)what does the college say about re-applying for MORE MERIT vs deferring for a year? have a candid talk with them 3)it almost seems like she’d be 24 when graduating. . . gap plus 5 years. Is that what she wants?

i think classes of 2019 -2023 really got hit the most with covid with missing college experiences and HS experiences. (i have 2 in that zone; and 2 a little older who werent quite as affected). I know my 2020 kid is very happy to have had a normal college year this year. . . . so again, that brings me to think . . . what does your daughter want?

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This. :point_up_2:What is the problem with four LACs, which she wants to attend, and being offered fantastic merit? I am scratching my head trying to figure out what the problem is. She asks the school if she can take a gap year while retaining her merit, and takes a gap year. Done.

I read your post twice. The plan to try again makes zero sense. Your husband’s rationale is convoluted and is not going to work. If anything, trying to recreate an extra year of high school so that she can get into a higher ranked school that will almost certainly NOT meet your financial need, seems like a recipe for disaster. Who knows what their policies might be on merit aid next year, or who her competition is?

Why would the physics teacher consider rewriting a letter of rec for a kid who won’t be her/his student anymore? That’s like telling them they did a bad job with the first rec.

Colleges are not giving the emphasis to the tests that they used to. They expect kids to take these in high school and many LACs are test optional or test blind even. Spending a lot of money on tutoring is not likely to result in even more merit than the “fantastic” merit she has already been offered. She was given that merit because she has great grades and probably great teacher recs.

Your did a great job with apps. She was accepted to a lot of colleges, more than she can attend, with fantastic merit. There is no problem here.

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I would put this on the music major thread as well. I would not risk reapplying next year in hopes to get more money.

You never know what will happen in a year. Your single income could disappear or decrease.

Your smartest move is to talk to her top choices about other merit possible. Perhaps with test scores.

She needs to pick an affordable school and make the best of it.

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Yes, and the parents can contact the admissions offices of the four LACS, assuming they are roughly similar, and ask which LAC might be able to improve their offer. This is a great strategy if the colleges are ranked around the same, but only consider doing this if there is genuine interest in attending.

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