Gas Stove Pollution

I have a VentaHood which I think is a good hood with a strong motor. I’ve never come across any hood that I don’t find the noise annoying.

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I appreciate CA’s leadership for cleaning up lawnmower exhaust. The difference was night and day when switching from a cheap mower to a CARB-compliant motor.

I also appreciate the leadership to ban indoor smoking.

Comparing these two scenarios to the gas stove, it seems gas stoves would fall in-line with the lawnmower case, necessitating better regulation without complete banishment.

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Just to be clear, CA has already passed a law directing regulators to ban all gas-powered lawn equipment and make them “zero emission” by next year.

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In addition to air pollution, the noise pollution from gas-powered lawn and garden tools is unbearable. Can’t wait until my neighbors’ gardener switches to battery-powered blowers. :confounded: We own a set of Greenworks tools, and they are more than adequate to maintain our very large yard. Mr. even removed a giant fallen tree with his battery powered chainsaw. So any arguments that these tools are wimpy is a no go. :slight_smile:

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You must not have thick Kentucky bluegrass. :joy:

Ditto. One would think that there would have been numerous reports about research showing the deleterious effects of gas appliances before a state government would take such a drastic step. Assuming there is research showing that our gas stoves are killing us (and I’m skeptical), can CA’s electric grid - not to mention other states - handle the switch to all electric appliances? Their grid is already having trouble with electric cars.

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Not a square inch of lawn here on our 1.2 acres. :slight_smile: Lawns are a big waste of resources. No one needs 1/2 acre of grass “decorating” their front yard.

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I am not seeing any papers either - other than a handful everyone seems to refer to. A handful of stoves tested in SF and LA area may or may not be representative of the entire stove “population.”

This isn’t quite accurate. The use of gas-powered lawn equipment is not being banned next year and existing equipment need not be zero emission. The sale of such new equipment is. So those with existing equipment can continue to use it, and the transition to fully electric use will take place over time as existing equipment wears out. During this time and as demand increases the options will become better and more affordable, and probably even be able to handle blue grass.

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We must know… what is on your 1.2 acres if there isn’t a blade of grass?

A house, a garage, a large deck, a driveway, a garden space, a bunch of native or semi-native vegetation, and a laaaaarrrggge forested swamp. :slight_smile:

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:face_with_peeking_eye: Yikes. Never seen one, but hopefully more peaceful than the ones I have seen in movies.

We don’t have a lawn, either. It’s all wooded with native understory vegetation. We are near a park so when the kids were little if they needed grass to run around on it was nearby, but I don’t think any of us have any complaints about having a wooded lot and not mowing a lawn. I’m reading a book my youngest gave me by Owen Wormser called “Lawns Into Meadows”. Not that we have a lawn, but pretty interesting reading anyway.

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As I walk my dog in my neighborhood, I’ve noticed for quite a while now, for those that desire the grass look, but do want to reduce water consumption and maintenance, homeowners are continually making the switch to synthetic or artificial grass. It’s really come a long ways since the old days and the higher end stuff, really looks real or real-ish.

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Ugh. I hate that stuff. A couple of the parks and businesses around here have it. Not a fan.

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I enjoy having a natural lawn. Rain waters it. Ponies mow it almost totally. We use the lawn mower once a month or so to get what the ponies miss. Our lawn would never pass any HOA regs, but I love it - complete with chicory, clover, and more.

I don’t want to live in a place that doesn’t have abundant natural greenery TBH. We travel to those places and they never appeal for living there - just for visiting.

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I’m not being critical of you in any way, and fully support your choice to do what you want to do, but is it really that much wasted resource to have a lawn? For me, the 10-year cost would be about $500-$750…assuming free intra-family labor (:hot_face:).

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Fertilizer, herbicide, and pesticide runoff, lawnmower (gas, maintenance, wear and tear, etc.), water wasted on keeping the lawn green, to name a few.

That said, if your “lawn” is like @Creekland’s natural pasture only occasionally requiring a “haircut” with a ride on mower and does not use watering, chemicals, etc. - that is perfectly fine. Just like our “swamp.”

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Off topic - but it’s not just resources - natural/native yards also help pollinators and other species - we do “no mow May” and let a good part of our lawn stay meadow all summer (mow it down once each fall) - I’m not sure our neighbors really approve but I’m so sad every year when we finally give in and mow our pretty overgrown lawn with all the flowers come June.

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I have several acres of lawn and many more of woods. I’ve never actually felt the need to water a lawn. Probably different here in the mid-Atlantic. It doesn’t get pesticides, fertilizer, or anything other than cut in warm weather and cleared of leaves in the fall. I do have a nice, gas powered, zero turn lawn mower.

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