Georgetown FLL

<p>Chances? Yeah yeah yeah, another one of these, I know.</p>

<p>I am planning on applying to Georgetown College, through FLL. I'm incredibly passionate about languages, as shown in my ECs, and am wondering what people think of my chances. I'm undecided as to if i want to stay in the college/FLL once I'm there or transfer into SFS, but we'll see, and heck, college is a (tiny bit) easier to get into anyway. My biggest ECs are my semester abroad (duh), my youth group leadership, and tutoring Spanish speaking kids in English (in Arizona there are LOTS of Mexicans who just moved here and don't speak English).</p>

<p>Class of 2008
Arizona resident
Jewish (yeah, since every school is lacking Jews... psh)</p>

<p>Academic:
Rank: 40/650 (6%)
SAT: 1400/2100 (700 on all sections) will retake and take SAT IIs
W GPA: 4.6
UW GPA: 3.86
8 APs by end of senior year
Most rigorous schedule available at school
Taking a Hebrew class outside of school
Did a semester abroad as a junior (in Israel)</p>

<p>ECs:
Semester Abroad in Israel 11-Spring Semester
Tutors Underprivileged Spanish Speaking Kids in English (4 days a week)- 12
Temple Youth Group (TYG) 9 10 11 12
Communications Vice President of TYG 11
Programming Vice President of TYG 12
Historian of the Southwest Region for TYGs 12
Leadership Camp Summer 2006
Day Camp Counselor Summer 2007
Hebrew High 10 11 12
100+ Hours of Community Service at School and Camp of Underprivileged Children
NHS
Spanish Honor Society
Had jobs since sophomore year</p>

<p>Note: Because I did a semester abroad, it was difficult to expand my ECs because I was away from all of them. My TYG ECs take up most of my time in the year, and I was able to continue with those while in Israel.</p>

<p>Thoughts?</p>

<p>I don't know if applying FLL and then tring to transfer to another college is a really smart idea. FLL is one of the harder (if not the hardest, if I am remembering correctly) programs to be accepted to. I'm not seeing the language passion. You teach English, (I assume you are fluent in Spanish?) and know Hebrew. </p>

<p>I just don't like this statement: "I'm undecided as to if i want to stay in the college/FLL once I'm there or transfer into SFS, but we'll see, and heck, college is a (tiny bit) easier to get into anyway." FLL is one of the top language programs in the country, and you are competing against people who have dedicated their high school careers to learning languages. Also, the College has the lowest acceptance rate at Georgetown, and the FLL has a lower rate among that group (IIRC). So I would strongly question your motivation for applying to FLL if you are not truly committed to learning languages.</p>

<p>Agreed. There is absolutely no advantage to you to apply to the FLL if you don't really want to be there. You say that you are passionate about languages, but besides tutoring English and going to Israel, I don't really see this passion either. I'm in the FLL and people are REALLY passionate, so unless you show that in your essay, you won't have any kind of advantage or even a good chance in the application. </p>

<p>Besides, it's a complete pain to transfer once you get accepted, since they make you wait an entire year before you can switch schools. <-- just keep that in mind before you commit yourself to the FLL.</p>

<p>After reading your responses, I'm thinking I'm going to go with SFS. To be honest with myself, its where I really want to be. I do love languages and have an incredible passion for them, but I find that SFS will be more practical in real life, and obviously it still has a strong language program.</p>

<p>Yeah, if you're really interested in International Relations, the SFS is the place to be! They also have a requirement that you have to pass a proficiency exam in a modern foreign language, and I know a lot of SFS kids that are taking 2 or 3 languages, so you should still be able to do a lot with languages, without restricting yourselves to it (which is fine for us FLL'ers, because we love linguistics and languages THAT much :-P )</p>

<p>Ah awesome :) I'm so excited, I just want it to be December so I'll find out! I just found out today I got National Merit Semi-Finalist so I'm all excited about that. Another good thing to add :) BAH.</p>

<p>Is it possible to apply to the college and FLL, and then just be accepted to the college and not FLL. I was planning on applying to FLL, because I really really do love languages, but ultimately I would rather get into Georgetown without being in FLL, then not get in at all.</p>

<p>The FLL is part of the college, so ultimately, your acceptance to the FLL is an acceptance to the college, and a rejection from the FLL is a rejection from the college. Same goes for applying to the SFS, and getting into the College as a backup....it can't happen.</p>

<p>Gah I need to know if I’m choosing Georgetown over Vanderbilt tomorrow…
If I am admitted to the College, does that mean I can major through the FLL?
Because on my acceptance letter it made no mention of the FLL, even though I did apply for it…</p>

<p>It doesn’t seem that my admissions letter made any mention of the FLL, but I know that I applied there. If you have any doubts, perhaps you should call the university. :)</p>

<p>If I am admitted to the College, does that mean I can major through the FLL?
Because on my acceptance letter it made no mention of the FLL, even though I did apply for it…
</p>

<p>All majors indicated on the application are tentative and not binding in the least. So everyone admitted to the College has the same opportunity to pursue a FLL major, whether they put one down on the application or not.</p>

<p>FLL actually is binding for one full year - you can’t switch out of the major and you MUST take a class in whatever field in the FLL (language or linguistics) that you chose.</p>

<p>FLL actually is binding for one full year - you can’t switch out of the major and you MUST take a class in whatever field in the FLL (language or linguistics) that you chose.</p>

<p>Right, I just don’t define “binding for one year” as really “binding.” Same difference.</p>

<p>FLL isn’t actually a separate school anymore. It’s just part of the college. You’re not actually treated all that differently from the other College kids. I applied linguistics, got accepted, but decided to switch to French. I was required to take French both semesters my freshman year, then I switched my major at the end of the 2nd semester. I’ve also put in my application to the SFS, because as you’ve mentioned, I’ve realized that languages are a skill and a means, not an end and goal.</p>

<p>Correct me if I’m wrong, I think ppl in the FLL also have the opportunity to double major in any school they want (i.e. French and Finance), that’s a pretty neat opportunity…</p>

<p>You can double major in a major in the college or take “business coursework” which is essentially another major, but I don’t think you can major in SFS or NHS and also FLL.</p>

<p>Previously, FLL students were the only ones in the College who could minor in Business. An expansion of that option to all of the College is in the works. There are no double-majors across schools (keeping in mind that FLL is not a separate school but a part of the College).</p>

<p>^ Not in the works. Completed and available starting with the class of 2012 (rising juniors) which is to say it will be easily open to any current applicants/freshman. See [Business</a> Minor Approved | The Hoya](<a href=“http://www.thehoya.com/news/business-minor-approved6456/]Business”>http://www.thehoya.com/news/business-minor-approved6456/)</p>

<p>Is it possible to apply to the College and minor in a language? I love to study french, but I am not yet sure if I want to major in it, so I am stuck between applying to the College in general or the FLL program. Is the FLL program significantly more competitive for admissions than the college? French and Italian are clearly my strongest subjects (I have maintained a 99% average in both) and I’m willing to commit to studying them for a year, but will my chances of acceptance be much lower if I apply to FLL… I have no extra curriculars or any special way to show my passion for languages.</p>

<p>megjs9:</p>

<p>The answer to your first question is yes: the FLL is part of the College, so a minor in the FLL is open to all other College students, and vice versa (a FLL major can avail themselves of all the other College minors offered).</p>

<p>In terms of FLL admissions as compared to other College admissions, you can look at the statistical breakdown in the profile found here: <a href=“http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/admissions/aap/documents/Profile2011.pdf[/url]”>http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/admissions/aap/documents/Profile2011.pdf&lt;/a&gt; You can see how FLL shakes out when compared with math/science admissions and Liberal Arts (which includes Undeclared) admissions.</p>

<p>If you have no extra-curricular or other evidence of interest in pursuing a language as your primary course of study, then you would want to put a lot of emphasis in your essays on explaining that if you were to apply to the FLL. Recommendations from your French and Italian teachers would also, obviously, be important.</p>