<p>so a 4.0 GPA from Harvard, Wharton and Princeton isn’t enough?</p>
<p>now GS has to ask for the high school SAT scores and High School grades also when they interview college juniors/seniors for permanent jobs?</p>
<p>geesh!</p>
<p>Let’s be honest, gpa isn’t necessarily a great show of intelligence. Like I said before, not to say SAT is great, but it, combined with a good gpa, help to show that you not only have the drive, but the raw intelligence that is sought after by these firms.</p>
<p>SAT is pretty standard, but HS GPA and SAT II. really?
Do they also want my preschool grades?</p>
<p>Maybe it’s specific to GS. My daughter was offered a job at 4 other firms (MS included), and they didn’t ask for SAT or high school transcript.</p>
<p>Goldman -
Goldman Sachs seeks highly motivated candidates who have demonstrated outstanding achievements in academic and extracurricular activities. We are looking for self-motivated, team players, who have excellent organizational and communication skills. While a background in finance or accounting is not required, candidates should have an interest in business and financial markets.</p>
<p>Of course no one publish those statistics, but it doesn’t mean you can’t get them out of recruiters. Recruiters love to divulge all sorts of information. You have to take each one with a grain of salt, but you get the idea after talking to enough recruiter at enough firms.</p>
<p>For top students at targets, Goldman and McKinsey is considered as the most prestigious, and these two firms have the highest percentage of candidates accepting their offers. At at least two Ivies, no one has turned down an offer from Goldman IBD for another firm’s investment banking division in the past three years. Only three people turned down offers from Goldman IBD for Bridgewater’s investment division. I don’t how many (if any) turned down Goldman IBD for McKinsey.</p>
<p>ivypbear, quick question - what’s your work history? you come off like someone who’s never stepped foot in a bank in his life.</p>
<p>even IF (and thats somewhat big of an if, as I know several people who turned down goldman) goldman gets the highest applicant yield consistently, that still doesnt equate to higher gpa’s/higher sat’s. Numerical stats only help you get the interview not the job, and even then are just one of many factors included (previous experience, networking, ec’s, etc). From my college graduating class I actually think goldman had a few of the lowest gpa people with banking offers that I knew in school.</p>
<p>and with regards to sat’s - i actually think almost every major bank asked them for me. I know for a fact goldman did as well as all the european banks. On the other hand, they just asked for it on the online app, so if your school has separate on-campus recruiting like mine did for all the banks I doubt anyone ever even looked at the scores until after you got the offer anyway.</p>
<p>birdman000 - GPA and SAT play a role (though a small one) even after you get your interview. Besides, I was only referring to IBD. I don’t know if IBD at Goldman’s taking students with very low GPA at your school (they might for varsity athletes); Goldman’s IBD is certainly getting a lot with high ones. Like I said, those who got offers at at two Ivies during the past three years, only ones who turned down Goldman’s IBD was for Bridgewater’s investment associate role and maybe McKinsey (one kid who turned down Goldman IBD for consulting, not sure which company). Even if your school has on-campus recruiting, positions often state “IMPORTANT: Include GPA and SAT score on resume” or something similar.</p>
<p>What IvyPBear said seems pretty accurate. From what I’ve seen, Goldman (as well as McKinsey, Blackstone, and other highly sought after firms) generally take the best of the best. </p>
<p>Bridgewater is sick though, I’d turn down Goldman for that as well</p>
<p>i don’t go to a target. i’m just interested in seeing statistics. i have the gpa, internships, and extracurrics, just not the target school.</p>
<p>ok so this thread has gone way off topic hahaha.</p>
<p>what do you guys think about this… i’ll be a sophomore with a 3.71 gpa, working at a mm i-bank this summer, involved with plenty of extracurrics, know a great deal about modeling and the accounting behind all of it. also know several people working / interning at bulge now.</p>
<p>do you guys think that’s enough to make it over the ‘non-target school’ hump? i want bb, not mm after college. but everyone talks bb up like there is no way you will get in from a non-target unless you’re a god among men</p>
<p>It’s too hard to predict, you’ll see when you see.</p>
<p>SAT scores? really?</p>
<p>Could we retake them during college? Mine is 2100+, but I’m guessing that’s low for Goldman.</p>
<p>I can’t believe they look at SAT scores… ugh!</p>
<p>I’m looking at (for next year) applying to GS for a summer analyst position in either Compliance, Securities, or IB (yeah, I know I can only apply to 2/3).</p>
<p>I go Cornell, and I’m a rising sophomore. My gpa is a 3.97 and my SATs were 2250. What do you think my chances are? </p>
<p>I know I have to demonstrate leadership and excellent quantitative skills, but I really didn’t want to bog down this post by writing extensively of my accomplishments (or, perhaps, lack thereof haha). Any advice you guys can throw at me would be welcomed. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>C-Revs so a 4.0 GPA from Harvard, Wharton or Princeton would not be considered a good show of intelligence and therefore what would be needed is an SAT score taken in High School?</p>
<p>are you serious here?</p>
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<p>S Yoshi: are you going to be a junior or a senior?</p>
<p>You will get interviews: apply everywhere you can.</p>
<p>[Goldman</a>, Sachs & Co. Recruiting Profile](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>
<p>That was kind of interesting. Old, but interesting.</p>
<p>Goldman asked me for my kindergarten coloring books. That was back in '09 though. I hear they’ve intensified their elementary school focus, now requesting 3rd grade spelling tests. This was for the Investment Banking Division.</p>
<p>Regarding the importance of SATs: it really depends on the recruiter/whoever is screening your resume</p>
<p>I know some people who put a lot of weight on SATs because it’s more standardized than GPA, whereas I know others who say it’s not even necessary to put your SAT on your resume</p>
<p>ahahhaa they wanna make sure their analysts have great presentation skills!</p>
<p>Re: JohnAdams</p>
<p>A high GPA is not exactly a wonderful show of raw intelligence. For many majors, you can get a GPA by working and studying a ton. Banks prefer to hire people who not only have drive, but also are just smart.</p>
<p>Surely you’ve met people who can memorize things required for exams, but are not incredibly smart.</p>