<p>Weenie, yes, she is. But we also find ways to divide labor that usually works for us. There are still some fault lines, of course: she rolls her eyes at my pace of kitchen clean up, I'm appalled at how oblivious she is to growing automobile problems, like a tires beginning to wear unevenly or a heretofore non-existent vibration coming up through the steering wheel.</p>
<p>well since we have gotten on the topic of babies my first slept with us because she came home from the hospital before she weighed 4 lbs and I was afraid she would stop breathing. so she was in cradle next to the bed- until after I sat up all night waiting for her to stop breathing I just put her on my chest- really too little to cry.
2nd daughter had night terrors- didn't sleep more than 3 or 4 hours at a time for years( at most- luckily I have blocked out much of her early childhood). really hard- she has ADD but more than that- is definitely on the ADD/Asperger/Autistic spectrum</p>
<p>I would submit my roommate as the most amazing sleeper ever. She resets her alarm clock several times a morning, takes daily two hour naps in the afternoon, and can sleep through any amount of noise. She has attained a level of sleeping to which mere mortals can only aspire.</p>
<p>The worst wake up call I ever had was "Breakfast Rave" which involved people yelling, dancing, and flashing lights in our faces at 5:45.</p>
<p>My son literally doesn't hear his alarm clock, the phone or the house fire/burglar alarm which is attached to the house outside his bedroom window. It occasionally goes off for unknown reasons and he sleeps through it. We've tried every alarm clock I can find. I've let him sleep though important stuff with unpleasant conseuences for him. Nothing works.</p>
<p>This is not just when he's been keeping late nights. Two weeks of 12-14 hour sleeps last summer didn't affect his ability to hear. I have never seen anyone sleep this soundly. He never slept as a baby so I guess he's making up.</p>
<p>Good thread...since I have TWO sleepy heads. </p>
<p>The senior has one of those dual alarm clocks with two time settings and the extra loud alarm. The 7th grader still gets a yell from Mom downstairs. And then there is the snare drum sitting in the hallway outside both their doorways. They both know if Mom has to climb those stairs after a sleepy kid, she's gonna do a little morning riff on that snare. :-)</p>
<p>I like the progressively louder alarm idea and the one with flashing lights. Has anyone here had any experience with the "Sleeptracker" device? I looked into it last year, but since it's quite pricey, I didn't get one. It's a wristband-type device that supposedly senses your sleep cycles and then wakes you up when you are the most alert during your sleep cycle. You give it a range of alarm times and it picks the "best" time to start the alarm during that time range. If you have had experience with this, I'd like to hear about it.
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<p>Forgive me if this has been mentioned before...but what about a sunrise simulator alarm clock? Some people are more responsive to light than sound. I know I am....canNOT sleep if the sun is up and shining in my room. Might work for the 'roommate with different sleep schedule' situation too...if one is responsive to sound and the other to light, both can ignore the other's alarm clock.</p>
<p>I still think that on a subconscious level if kids KNOW that they really must get up on their own, they will. </p>
<p>I think if they believe that they'll have 3 or 4 (or more) opportunities to get up (especially if it involves mom) they'll go that route.</p>
<p>Weenie, I think that is very true about kids who hear the alarm go off and push the snooze button or turn the alarm off. I agree that there are teens that know that their parents will get them up "in the nick of time". But, there are a few that do have a serious problem with hearing alarms. </p>
<p>But there are a small group of people who get in such a deep sleep that they don't hear the alarm at all. My brother will atest to the pain and embarrassment of missing important appts and missing flights (that he did NOT want to miss) simply because he did not hear his alarm go off. Now that he is married, his wife has to jiggle him awake.</p>
<p>Any ideas for high school kids who can wake up but refuse to get out of bed? My niece is like this and there is always a knock-down fight to get her up. She is 17 and was recently kicked out of school (private), so she'll be entering the work force soon (against her will). Since she won't get up in the mornings, that's a bit of a problem. Any ideas? Dropping her off at a homeless shelter is under consideration :-/ .</p>
<p>that sounds like your niece has a problem that requires counseling - probably severe depression, but possibly some other issues about authority/defiance that need to be looked at. kidding about a homeless shelter isnt going to make things better for her.. kids dont get kicked out of school for no reason, and i cant believe her parents are making her work instead of going back to public school or at least getting her ged.</p>
<p>She's had lots of counseling, but it turns out that it isn't very effective if the counselee isn't interested in helping herself. I'm sad to say that they aren't at all kidding about the homeless shelter. Sometimes drastic measures are called for when someone has the attitude that she isn't going to do anything, but she just expects to be supported. She got kicked out of school because she won't do any school work. Her parents are arranging for her to get her GED. Anyway, it would be nice if there were a way to get past this getting out of bed problem without having to kick her out of the house!</p>
<p>Friend of mine emailed this item to me, what do you guys make of this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smarthome.com/19302.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.smarthome.com/19302.html</a></p>
<p>steel, i heard about that a few days ago and i thought it was really cool. i want to try it, but i wouldnt shell out the $$ </p>
<p>im a junior in HS and im deaf (i wear hearing aids, but not when im sleeping). so my parents got me an alarm that vibrates the bed and flashes the light (since i cant hear anything). </p>
<p>for school i usually have to be up at 6 but i CANT get out of bed at the first time i am awoken. so i set my alarm for 5 AM and press the snooze button about 6 times lol (i know, i wont be able to do that w/ a roomate in college... but it works for me now). plus its nice cause when i wake up at 5, im like YEs, i've got another hour</p>
<p>u wanna know something funny though- sometimes just before the alarm goes off, i'll be in the middle of a dream, and then all of a sudden the bed starts vibrating and so in my dream, i'll think that there is an earthquake. so sometimes i think that the flashing lights and shaking bed are a part of my dream so it takes me a few minutes to realize whats going on lol</p>
<p>if anyone wants to check it out, here's the link
<a href="http://www.phonemerchants.com/sonboomcloca.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.phonemerchants.com/sonboomcloca.html</a>
i would DEFINITELY recommend it
and it has that whole "reset" sort of thing that some of you were talking about (i mean, if u set it at 5AM, it stays at 5AM if you keep alarm mode-on)
it also comes with a loud noise alarm too, which i dont use though</p>
<p>This seems to be the best alarm device I've come across so far since it has all of the main features we have been discussing here, flashing light, digital, snooze, vibrating, appreciate the link, if you do try out that other one, please post!</p>
<p>This isn't a suggestion, just a glimmer of hope. My oldest son would NEVER get out of bed at home---alarm rang forever, I would yell every 5 min for 30min., younger sibs would bang on his door---terrible every morning. He went to college and I thought "this kid will flunk out, he'll miss every morning class". Well, when he knew he had to do it himself--guess what? HE DID! So there is hope and sometimes our surprises are good ones!</p>
<p>lol, i was like your son except now that i'm in college i just take all afternoon classes =)
the one time i had a morning class (8 am) i missed almost all the lectures, luckily it was a math class that i understood.</p>
<p>If the watch for some reason fails because it is not loud enough (under pillow, w/e) , here is an actual alarm clock [pricey though]</p>
<p>Also there is this other type of alarm for those who might forget to change the time on their alarm if it often needs to be changed: <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/788e/%5B/url%5D">http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/788e/</a></p>
<p>Wow- I am feeling like an old timer on CC. We've been 'round the block on this topic several times. Here are a few links to old discussions
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=106389%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=106389</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=36522%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=36522</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=73400%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=73400</a></p>
<p>Ilovemath is correct-- teh sonic boom alarm is wonderful. I boutgt one for my sone fromthe Hearmore website. They have lots of makes and models. It works!</p>
<p>Why does this thread have more discussion about exotic gadgets and fancy techniques than discussion about going to bed earlier and scaling back the unrealistic agendas consisting of being valedictorian, being an all-state varsity sports champion, discovering the cure for cancer, becoming the next Mother Theresa, AND taking AP classes to the hilt?</p>
<p>This thread reminds me of the speeders who buy the fancy radar/laser detectors, find out the shifts of the police patrols on the highway, position themselves so that the semi in the next lane blocks the police radar, come up with rules on where and where not to speed, etc. rather than just drive slower in the first place.</p>