Go for ED2 or keep trying for ED/deferred school?

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<p>^^Yes, my assumption is that the “weaker” students feel their best shot at a reach school might be ED, which doesn’t rue out ED2.</p>

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I don’t agree with that. My impression is that applicants go for the highest reach during ED1. If they are rejected, they go one notch down for ED2. So, for example, a student with 4.2 and 2300 might try for Yale SCEA, get rejected, then go forTufts ED2.

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I think all Hanna is trying to say is that the ED2 pool, by definition, excludes all the successful ED1 candidates while retaining a lot of the folks attempting to use an ED commitment to make up for perceived weaknesses in the application file.

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I concur with your thinking, old guy, but I’m hung up on the word, “unrealistic.” I personally know a lot of unrealistic early applicants to top ~15 schools – who are rejected ED/EA. (Like the advertisements say, “You gotta play to win”, (the lottery)). Yet, they don’t play the EDII game, since financial aid is usually not so generous in EDII schools.

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ED1 may also get more of the “favored” categories (recruited athlete, development, etc.) than ED2.

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“I think all Hanna is trying to say is that the ED2 pool, by definition, excludes all the successful ED1 candidates while retaining a lot of the folks attempting to use an ED commitment to make up for perceived weaknesses in the application file.”

Exactly.

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Cornell was my S2s top choice (Hotel). Like ILR they defer, waitlist, and offer the GT. My son was deferred from ED, waitlisted, offered the GT and transferred in. Graduated in 2014. Loved his experience – most of it anyway.

The trick about picking the freshman year school in these circumstances is to pick a school that you’d be Ok staying at and graduating from AND that you’d be OK leaving. Not such and easy thing.

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@cnp55‌
It is my understanding that ILR ED applicants can have any of three outcomes: admit, defer, deny. At least that’s what it says on their website. I would love to know if anyone got denied. Then we’d be better able to judge whether a deferral still has a chance or if it is pro forma.

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Does the Cornell Guaranteed Transfer option allow the initial college to be a community college? If so, that may be an inexpensive way to start off a Cornell degree.

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^It depends on the CC. Usually not an OOS community college, but I think they have agreements within NY state. Best to double check. There is a thread on the Guaranteed Transfer on the Cornell thread.

An article from the Cornell Sun on GT:
http://cornellsun.com/blog/2013/09/30/guest-room-inside-cornells-guarantee-transfer-system/

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/1631130-official-cornell-fall-2015-guaranteed-transfers-class-of-2018.html

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/319079-guaranteed-transfer-option.html

http://theivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-admissions/cornell-guaranteed-transfer-admission/

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I believe it does. However, a very important thing in picking that freshman year school is that you be able to do well – no Cs – and a 3.0 (or whatever your particular GT requires) AND that you be potentially happy to stay there if you change your mind about Cornell or have a little unanticipated academic slip during freshman year.