<p>We had a discussion about this in my biology class (Catholic school) a couple of weeks ago. Everybody had to do some research, we presented the information, and everybody was free to come to their own conclusion. After researching the different beliefs of creationism and evolution (though not too in depth), I came across evolutionary creationism. Many would believe this to be a conflict in terms but, when you read the page, it’s not. Some might view this as a cop out and that I can’t make up my mind about what to believe so I just combined them, but I didn’t. I just realized that these beliefs allow me to believe my faith as well as the science behind evolution. Take a look if you’re interested:
[Untitled</a> Document](<a href=“http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlamoure/3EvoCr.htm]Untitled”>Evolutionary Creation)</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1059901400-post201.html]#201[/url”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1059901400-post201.html]#201[/url</a>] golfer_08:</p>
<p>By asserting a ‘creator’ in your argument, you’re also asserting that a ‘creative’ process is integral to the universe. That being asserted, you’re responsible for explaining the ‘creative process’ that made the ‘creator’ come about. </p>
<p>Or to put it more succinctly, once you assert a ‘creative’ process it’s disingenious to be selective on what is under the process’ influence.</p>
<p>man, i asked a christian friend the other day why he thinks his religion THE religion, since if he was born in a different country, ie China, he would most likely be a buddhist and say that’s THE religion. His response was, “well, some people just CLAIM to be christian. plus, i know someone who has converted from buddhism to christianity!” I almost died. Since i thought that at any moment he was going to become super defensive/****ed off at my challenging his lack of logic, I backed off. haha. it’s entertaining though, seeing these people, RAISED to be of a certain religion, so devoutly confused.</p>
<p>@ 4390116,
i’ve been telling people i’m the sun god for the past month. :D</p>
<p>syzonin- I too, am a Christian, and I do believe that my religion is the one. First, though, let me say that “Christian” is a very broad term.Many people who fall into that category may not actually be Christians.</p>
<pre><code> I read the Bible literally. I believe the Earth was created in 6 days. The Lord spoke, and it happened. I also believe that the Bible is without fault or human error. When Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light; no man comes to the Father but through Me” it was -and still is- true.
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<p>I don’t have time to address anything else in this thread- I’ve got to get to bed. I’ll pray for all of you. :P</p>
<p>Oh, and the Bible verse I quoted was John 14:6.</p>
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<p>Do you mind if I ask why?</p>
<p>atheists fancy the fact that they are not confused like a “christian who thinks he’d be christian even if he was in China”, yet they themselves may be totally wrong in their thought that there’s no existence of God/gods, and that a ‘natural power’ (?!) drives the cosmology.</p>
<p>We may not understand them, but there are physical laws that drive cosmology. What we choose to call these laws is philosophical, and, as far as the physics are concerned, it’s immaterial what we call them; they are what they are. So where did the pre-big-bang universe come from? Where do gods come from? The universe always was? The gods always were? It sounds the same to me.</p>
<p>“I’ll pray for all of you.”</p>
<p>Just curious, what will you pray for? Perhaps to change your god’s mind about his plan for the rest of us?</p>
<p>hey vossron and others…u guys haven’t read this thread totally…for sure…plz do that…coz we r again repeating the same stuffs in the very same thread…the same types of argument..if u don’t believe me…plz go back to page 1 and start reading every post…</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1059784550-post74.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1059784550-post74.html</a></p>
<p>so, WHY do you think your religion is better than all those other religions, even if they are MUCH older and more benevolent in many senses?
have you stopped and looked at your lines of logic?
innovative, i’m sure we’re repeating the same things too. can’t you yourself reread the post…</p>
<p>Apparently, if you don’t agree with him, you’re not “intellectual”.</p>
<p>Sorry it took me so long to reply.</p>
<p>Vossron- It was meant to be a joke. One of the stereotypes of Christians is that as soon as they meet someone who has an opposing viewpoint about something, christians instantly start praying for their conversion.</p>
<p>jack4640- I believe the Bible is divinely inspired by God, without human error. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God…” ( 2 Timothy 3:16) Because God is perfect, how could his scripture be anyhting other than perfect? No evidence has ever been confirmed to contradict the Bible. One thing that had been used to dispute the Bible’s veracity was the city of Nineveh. At the time (I’m not sure when, I’d have to double check) Archeoligists had not found any city slightly resembling the Nineveh of the Bible. When Nineveh was uncovered, it exactly matched the description in the Bible.
Again, I need to double check my facts, unfortunately I don’t have time right now. I’d love to stay and chat, but I need to get to work. :(</p>
<p>I was telling vossoron how I was done w/ this thread, but ppl’s comments just make me post again and again. Alrite…
Syzonin: when in the world did I mention “MY” religion? And regardless of what my religion is, I “NEVER” think my religion is “BETTER” than other religions!!! have YOU stopped and read what I really wrote? </p>
<p>skatj: u took the shortcut route and just trying to condemn me that I’ve this whole idea that my idea is “intellectual”…look, I believe in reasonings okay? now, I also very clearly stated my reasonings in that post..so i don’t wanna repeat all those things again. I guess I’ll have to go back and find another link to one of my other posts in this thread.</p>
<p>when I refer to an “intellectual” discussion, I mean discussions that usually go in this forum: [RichardDawkins.net</a> Forum • Index page](<a href=“http://richarddawkins.net/forum/]RichardDawkins.net”>http://richarddawkins.net/forum/)</p>
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<p>Which Bible? The original Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek canonical text? Or are the English translations infallible as well?</p>
<p>Given that Biblical Hebrew has no punctuation marks, there’s active scholarly debate over the meaning of hundreds of lines in the Old Testament. These aren’t simple semantics; these are debates over interpretations that would completely change our understanding of many basic Bible stories.</p>
<p>In the New Testament, similar problems arise. We learn that Jesus walked on water because people chose to translate the original Greek in John as “Jesus walked on the sea,” when the line can translate into “Jesus walked on the seashore” as well (Greek can be a little ambiguous sometimes!) Or, if you like, the Greek verb for “walking” can also mean “going” - some scholars argue that Jesus was, in fact, swimming. Mark doesn’t even mention it, making it fairly obvious that it’s a mistranslation and not a miracle.</p>
<p>Also, thanks for the offer but you don’t need to pray for us - if God is truly all-knowing than he already knows what choice we’re going to make anyway :-)</p>
<p>great post jack! yea, Hebrew, Arabic, and Green languages, when translated into English…usually doesn’t always have the same meaning that was meant…there r words which may have a different connotative meaning but when translated gain another connotative meaning!</p>
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they may be. but scientifically and mathematically that’s about as likely as mice having created this planet to find the question to life, universe, and everything.</p>
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<p>look up “atheist.” you might as well keep your facts straight.. this thread hasn’t sunk THAT far..</p>