<p>Reading the EDIT on your last post got me thinking.</p>
<p>I know you don't have room for this in your first semester schedule, but perhaps you should consider a good basic Math course as a part of your UVa long term Curriculum Plan. :)</p>
<p>Just some food for thought.</p>
<p>On a bit more serious note, your Association Dean will need to approve your proposed schedule to go above 17 credit hours. You might want to email him/her and schedule an appointment to meet when you are in C'ville on the 11th.</p>
<p>HAHAHAHA. my mathematical ability for day to day is really no good. i make mistakes like this daily. (proof: my original post.) In fact, if it wasn't for the tip calculator on my cell phone, I don't think I would be able to function. But my converting skills are pretty beast now since I'm in India. I've been converting back and forth between rupees and dollars for a month. (but the sad news, of course, is that I finally learned how to do it quickly and I'm leaving next week. :()</p>
<p>but more seriously, I'm going to go ahead and take another math class (BLEH) for premed reqs. The thing is, for premed, I already fulfilled it with my AP Calc credit (I got a 5/5 on BC/AB subscore) (I know, you must shocked. :)) but just in case some college decides they won't take that credit, I want to be covered. In fact, that was the biggest problem I had when choosing first semester classes: take math now or later. In the end I decided later so I'll be in MATH 231/232 next year. Unless there's a MATH 231 class in the spring. Then I'll start in the spring. The thing about math is that it comes easy to me so I'd rather take it next year when I have a tougher schedule. (I know a bajillion people are cursing me right now.) That, and I want to review some of the stuff I learned that I muffled through. (Senior slump anyone?) I don't have time right now because I get back to the U.S. in about a week and then I'm running around for the 2 weeks before move in. (p.s. thank god for my roommate. she's been a lifesaver. she went shopping for dorm stuff and got me some shelves and storage things just in case all of it was gone before I got back. And she's great too, because she's really on top of things.)</p>
<p>so yeah. I will eventualy take another math. (though, i'm not sure if Calc III fits the description for good basic math. :)) And I just e-mailed my A. Dean. so when I hear back, I'll let everyone know.</p>
<p>EDIT: COUNTDOWN TO MOVE-IN: 22 days. :D anyone pumped?!</p>
<p>I'm planning on being a biology major (w. a premed focus) and I was wondering whether I should take Chem 141 or 181? I signed up for 141 but now I'm having second thoughts-maybe I should take 181 since its tougher? I'm confortable with chem-although I'm much better at Bio.
What do you guys think? </p>
<p>I have 16 credits now.
Chem 141 + lab (5)
USEM Collapse of eco. and societies (2)
Math 121 (3)
PLIR 340-US Foriegn Policy w. disc. (3)
Violence &Cinema-s. asian film (3)</p>
<p>Apparently BIOL 301 doesn't require BIOL 203 as a prereq, so there's no issue with me taking BIOL 301 first, then BIOL 203, right?</p>
<p>Also, what is the difference between Honors Calculus III and Calculus III? There's no room in any of them at the moment (<em>sob</em>), and probably professors won't be lenient about entry if I email them, right? </p>
<p>Do all the first-years (except for those people who might have declined MIT for UVA, if they do exist) basically feel that they're not confident in their previous calculus courses, because even after two years of this thing, I don't feel confident at all! I have credit for 132 from dual-enrollment, but I can't remember half of what was taught in my Calc II class. Or does it come back to you when school starts?</p>
<p>Ooh, I'm getting dual enrollment credit for MATH 132 as well, but I totally don't feel prepared for Calculus III... which is why I'm putting it off for a semester/year. I guess I'll sit in on a class or two (if I can?) and see what other people think of it.</p>
<p>But yeah, you're definitely not alone. Just be vocal and ask lots of questions! Go to office hours, etc.</p>
<p>Galoisien: You will never know if you don't try to email them. Especially with math classes, lots of people drop after the first day.</p>
<p>Math 132 concerns: Don't retake it here (and forfeit your credit) if you're concerned about it... You could either audit the class or take it at a community college over the summer if you're that concerned and willing to wait a year to take math classes. Though, honestly, they know people come in with 132 credit from AP/dual enrollment and so they'll catch you back up.</p>
<p>Calc 132 H is just more rigorous, any pre-math majors who came in with a lot of AP credit/feel strong in their Calc background are encouraged to take that section.</p>
<p>Calc III is 231...I'd like to know also the difference between Honors and non-Honors calc III. I took 132 last year and got an A+ so I figured I could handle honors...but maybe not.</p>
<p>Does it matter whether that A+ was in UVA or not? I sort of squeaked by with a regular A at a local university. Actually I never got my final exam back so it could have been an A+ (it makes no difference for a 4.0), but that exam was hard and I doubt I got an A+...</p>
<p>Right now on ISIS I'm hitting the limit that's preventing me from taking 18 credits, but that's only because if I'm really going to drop courses (don't want to give up my place on Chem 141 if I can't make it for 181). I myself am not really intent on taking 18 credits, but I suppose the time to email the Assistant Deans would be if all the other profs okay my special requests and I have everything else finalised?</p>
<p>If you don't feel confident with your Calc II abilities, I'd retake it. Calc III is basically the same stuff with an extra variable (Calc III is multi-variable calculus). From personal experience, if a future class is going to heavily rely on a course that was easy at another school, I'd retake it. I took DiffEq at a local CC that is part of one of the best CC systems in the country, and I learned maybe 60% of what UVA DiffEq teaches you. The reason I'm not worried is that classes that require DiffEq pretty much work the equations out for you, or they're very simple.<br>
My suggestion is sign up for Calc III and the first week they generally give you "review" stuff. You may just be worried about nothing and soar through the review stuff. But, if you don't, I'd retake Calc II. It's not a big deal, you're either at the same level or ahead of your peers by a semester. It might be an easy A too, with only patches of difficulty. It's better than an entire semester of difficulty though.</p>
<p>Also, I'm going to reiterate what most of us are saying on here: I would think long and hard, then rethink long and hard, then ponder some more, on the idea of over 15-16 credits. It's your very first semester of college, and no high school will EVER prepare you for college (see melli's earlier post). You don't want to overload yourself and then do badly your very first semester of college. And the drop deadline for The College is like, the second week of school. It's hard to grasp the difficulties of courses in two weeks. I'm begging each one of you to listen to our warnings. You can take 17-18 your second semester, and for the rest of your days. But at least take one semester at a normal pace.</p>
<p>LOL, I'm totally going to take 12 credits first semester. I'm debating about taking 15 credits second semester. All these CC kids are going crazy with credits!</p>
<p>I had a friend last semester take 12 credits. One class was a major Bio class, another was his last semester of Italian, so he didn't have all basketweaving classes, but he still had a lot of extra time to do "extracurricular" college activities. He was really bored, all the time. 12 credits I assume is 4 classes, maybe 3 and labs. My suggestion? Look up some USEMs and take one that sounds really interesting that might only meet once or twice a week (1 or 2 credit). You only get one chance to take these, and with your credit number, it might be really fun (and easy) and a 1-2 credit A can only help your GPA without adding on to your workload much, or your time. I took 14 my first semester of college and was pretty bored. I wish I had taken the 15 (it was the difference of a lab, but I was too lazy to sign up for a 2 hour lab that I didn't need at all).</p>
<p>Yeah, I added up your credits on the schedule thread and wondered why you were only taking 12... Better to take less than more, but still... You should be able to find some fluff class (a USEM, a phys ed class?, etc) to give you a few more credits maybe?</p>
<p>I took 12 credits last fall, so this is personal experience: I took a 200-level Hebrew class, an ed class (so that one was easy), a 500-level math class, and a computer science course... I had so much time that I couldn't help but get A+s in 2 of them, fully participate in all of my extracurrics and work, etc... It was a nice break for one semester but I was really bored and did way more schoolwork than I needed to do because I had nothing better to do. Also, consider that to get intermediate honors you need to take 15 UVA credits a semester, so that's something to think about. Plus, any kind of grad schools really frown on taking less than 15 credits a semester, so if you're pre-med you might want to rethink and find an easy class to add in.</p>
<p>re: math132 (calc 2): really... don't retake this at UVA. it is known for HARSH curves on tests, so little mistakes will cost your GPA when it never needed to be hurt by that class in the first place. calc3 is full of people with AP/dual enrollment credit so you'll be FINE.</p>
<p>Alright, what's going on here? Everybody is hating on too many creds in this thread but where's the love when I throw down 12 creds? Sheesh!</p>
<p>Hazelorb brings up a good point here. The whole Intermediate Honors sounds pretty nice but the UVa website says all you need is 60 prior to the 5th semester...are you talking about Phi Beta Kappa? The UVa website def says 15 creds / semester for PB & K (I wonder if anyone has thought of that before).</p>
<p>But I progress. I was thinking that Chem 141, Chem 141L, Math 131, & ENWR 110 was a pretty heavy sched...I guess not, lol. I was going to drop the Bio 201 I have atm to make room for my lunch hour but now I'm having seconds thoughts. I've got AP Bio cred but maybe I should re-take Bio 201 to get a solid foundation in Biology since I'm trying out pre-med...</p>
<p>So here are my options:
1. Take Bio 201 & 202 1st Year and Bio 300 & 301 w/ Bio 203 & 204 2nd Year
2. Take Phil 100
3. Take Phys Ed/USEM/Life Guard, etc</p>
<p>For Op 1, this option would really make double majoring in biology (BA) & computer science (BA) a lot easier since I wouldn't have to delay my Core Bio courses till 3rd year. I feel pretty strong in Biology so I don't think it would be that much of a burden.</p>
<p>For Op 2, this option fills a humanity requirement which is nice and sounds like a cool class. It also fits well into my schedule. I've also heard this was a pretty easy class if you keep up with it.</p>
<p>For Op 3, this is quite the slacker route but probably more fulfilling.</p>
<p>So, bottom line. I guess I'll take 15 creds for this semester. I would really like to be able to get all A's and carry a 10-20 hour per week job. Also, I like to work out everyday and maintain a decent social life. Oops, almost forgot. I'm half asian (half white) so I can really study like a beast half the time. So what option? Sorry for the long post.</p>