going to India etc. for work

<p>Is it possible for american/european engineers to go and live in India and work there if they can't get work here? Would you have to learn their language or do they use english? I am talking about going there to do outsourced work. Would it be a problem to get a job there?</p>

<p>I am not only taking about India but all the countries in Asia where the work gets outsourced.</p>

<p>R u 4 reelz?</p>

<p>I smell troll</p>

<p>I am indeed for real, what's wrong?</p>

<p>its kind of ironic that a person named "ratroll" accuses anybody of being a troll</p>

<p>it is definetly possible to work in india without learning the language.
in fact in major cities in southern india...english is waht is spoken.
and i believe getting a job would depend on college
...although i do believe ud find one.
but ur gonna have tough competition with the IIT candidates and other engineers.</p>

<p>you'll get paid next to nothing, theres a reason that work is outsourced there. wages are way lower, you'd be better off here with a mid level job where you still have friends and a culture your used to</p>

<p>ive been there so i can say that most american people wouldnt be ready to live in that type of place</p>

<p>almost everyone speaks english though</p>

<p>You'll definately have a culture shock if you go there unless you are ready to accept it for what it is and enjoy the experience. Even though you earn less, it'll fetch more in India in terms of daily services ( although if you dine at five star hotels every day, then its gonna be tight ).</p>

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<p>Sure, of course. I know some Americans who have done just that. Unsurprisingly, most of them are Indian-Americans, but some of them are not. </p>

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<p>If you're willing to consider all the other Asian countries, then it gets even easier to find a job. (Note, it's still not easy, just easier.)</p>

<p>As a case in point, I know a guy who graduated from MIT. He's white, and he speaks no Asian languages. Nevertheless, he got a job at Apple to work on their international supply chain, specifically in the division that manages the procurement and supply chain for components for the Ipod and Iphone. The manufacturing of almost all of these parts is outsourced to various countries in Asia: mainland China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Singapore, Vietnam, etc.. Hence, he spends well over 75% of his time in Asia. I don't even think he's been back in the US since Halloween. </p>

<p>I know another MIT grad, who is also white and speaks no Asian languages, who was hired by a US startup engineering firm who was outsourcing their manufacturing and sourcing to China and needed a team of people to oversee that process. He's now a member of that team. He literally now spends all his time in China, to the point that he no longer even has a US residency anymore. {The first guy still technically resides in California although he is rarely there, but the second guy has now permanently relocated to China.} To reiterate, he doesn't speak Chinese. </p>

<p>Now, lest anybody think that these aren't "really" outsourced jobs, I would say that they definitely are. After all, many of these "outsourced" jobs are really a case of American companies setting up operations in foreign countries and "outsourcing" jobs from their US offices to their foreign offices. </p>

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you'll get paid next to nothing,

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<p>Well, I don't know if I would generalize too much. It really depends on the job. You might get paid less. Or you might actually get paid more. In the case of the 2 examples I described, each of those guys is actually getting paid more <a href="in%20fact,%20a%20LOT%20more">/i</a> for those jobs than stateside jobs because they're considered to be 'hardship' jobs (although those guys actually enjoy Asia, so they're basically having their cake and eating it too). For example, the Apple guy told me that he could transfer to a stateside division in Apple, but then he would have to take a substantial *pay cut. </p>

<p>Now, I'm sure that there are some Americans who take those outsourced jobs and get paid less. But the point is, there is no general rule. Some people will get paid more, others will get paid less.</p>

<p>Furthermore, it's not just a matter of simply the pay. Many of these guys have their travel costs paid for by the company. Again, take the Apple guy. When he's in Asia (which is almost always), he is living in nice hotels, eating in restaurants, and being driven around in company cars, all paid for by Apple. That's because he's considered to be "traveling on business" for Apple, and so Apple foots the travel bill. Similarly, the 2nd guy lives in company housing in China paid for by the company.</p>

<p>Now, I know what some readers must be thinking: isn't the whole point of outsourcing to save money, not spend more? Well, yes and no. This is where the economics of outsourcing become complicated. Yes, outsourced low-level assembly or coding work costs significantly less. But the management and design work of outsourced goods does not - in fact, it often times costs more. It is only when the savings of the low-level assembly work exceeds the increased costs of the management and oversight that it makes economic sense to outsource. In other words, it's easy to find some cheap Indians to do a bunch of coding or cheap Chinese workers to assembly some manufactured products. It's far more difficult to find people in India who understand how to oversee a software project or a manufacturing strategy to fit the cultural nuances of the US market. In fact, so much so that often times that the company has to 'export' native born Americans - and pay them more - to go to Asia and do that work.</p>