<p>“Dude…there is a kid in my class who was offered a spot at Williams for football. He has a 3.0 and an 1810 SAT. He ended up signing with a D1 school. Williams wanted him bad.”</p>
<p>Might be true if he is a URM. Otherwise, he’s making up something. I know what the C cut is, and and 3.0 and 1810 doesn’t do it.</p>
<p>According to this 2006 article, an 1800 could play football at Amherst, and therefore probably Williams. however, this was 2006 [Online</a> Extra: Amherst’s “A” List: Affluence, Achievement, Athletics](<a href=“Businessweek - Bloomberg”>Businessweek - Bloomberg)
Things have changed a lot since then. Im sure both schools allow coaches to bring a couple of ringers in if they are talented enough.</p>
<p>Actually the article says they go as low as 1250-1300, which translates into 1875-1950 (although I suppose that the particular person could have a 500 on the writing part). In addition, there is the issue of the 3.0 grade point, which (again I know from experience) is a real problem.</p>
<p>But, hey, maybe Williams just cheats.</p>
<p>I believe that the 1250-1300 (1875 - 1950) SATs and B grades are still the standard for C-band recruits at Amherst (and probably Williams too). Through recruiting websites, I have seen some less than stellar academic credentials for football players (non-URMs), who eventually enrolled at Williams. IIRC, though, the total number of C-band tips is very limited (maybe 10/year) - they are used for important hockey and football players so we are talking about a very small number of admittees with less than stellar academic credentials. </p>
<p>After the small number of C-band slots is exhausted, the athlete has to fit through a much narrower hole to get an A-band or B-band tip or to obtain protected status at Amherst (and the other NESCACs). And he/she must also compete with other applicants who play his/her position. For example, a very good hockey goalie with superb academic credentials may get less of a boast through the process than a slightly better goalie with lesser academic qualifications. Further, the school’s interest in a particular applicant rises in direct relationship to its needs. To illustrate, if there are already 2 excellent sophomore point guards, it gets much tougher for a point guard with similar talents/skills to be admitted even if that applicant has excellent academic credentials. . . </p>
<p>In Abstract’s case, I am going to guess that he was in competition with other athletes with better athletic credentials so his strong academic records did not really help him. He is probably in the insurance pile - Amherst would not mind having him enroll but he is not high on its list of priorities for the football team and so did not get a tip (and therefore ends up in the regular pile). Also, do not forget one other point - Amherst had a superb football team this year (undefeated and NESCAC champ, I believe). That’s likely to translate into more competition in the admissions process for spots on the team.</p>
<p>Thanks abstract. I’d never seen that article before.</p>
<p>I’m from li and got an ED1 acceptance to williams for football with a 4.0 and 1370/2050 SAT, but I probably wouldnt of gotten in if I wasnt gong to play lax too. The competitions stiff but 2 sports can help</p>
<p>Sounds like you are flirting with 700s,and have the famous 4.0, as we have all stated in the past quotes. I’m sure that the 2 sports helped, good luck at Williams.</p>