<p>Thank you so much! These "real life stories" really help...and yes, the competition is REALLY scary! yikes! Knowing that some people started when they were 8 or 9 (or younger! as youtube shows hahah) while I started much later is daunting. ;)</p>
<p>Definitely check out the Boyer College at Temple University also. I'm headed there in the fall. There are four flute professors there, David Cramer, Loren Lind, Kazuo Tokito and Adeline Tomasone . Three of them are in the Philadelphia Orchestra and one plays first chair for the Philadelphia Opera Company and was previously in the Orchestra. All four are wonderful, I study with one of them now. You can PM me for more info if you'd like. Rutgers NB also has two very good teachers.</p>
<p>Mu daughter is intersted in Julliard and has takend a lesson with at eacher there. We know how competitive it really is....anyone know anything about the three teachers who are there?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>Robert Langevin also teaches at Manhattan , but maybe only in the orchestra program, not sure</p>
<p>S took his Tanglewood flute friend to his prom. She's phenomenal (and a lovely girl) and will going to USC. She performed on "From the Top" and is really extraordinarily talented. Check out USC.</p>
<p>So I've told my parents about applying to flute studios and they flat out rejected the idea. Any tips on trying to persuade them from already-confinced-parents, or successful students? ; ) Since I'm planning on doing a double major (hence the decent university clause attached to my good flute studio one hahah), my parents don't seem to think I can make it.. D: Sadly, they are probably right, but I can still give it a shot, right? I recently heard back from a pretty high-level competition saying I'm a finalist and etc, so I THINK I can do pretty well as a flute major...meh..advice?</p>
<p>Thanks so much for all your help so far! It's been great!! : )</p>
<p>Even though you are not looking for conservatories, there are some interesting articles on the Peabody website that you might read and pass along to your parents. They are at Peabody</a> Institute - Conservatory Admissions: The Articles and Peabody</a> Institute - Conservatory Admissions: Double Degree and should be required reading for anyone headed into a music major or minor whether at a conservatory, a college or a combination of the two.</p>
<p>Wow, that was really helpful - especially the second one! :D Thanks a LOT!!! I guess I should be saying "double degree" then, heheh. I think I'm right between "Jennifer" and "Howard" so we'll see how it goes...I might end up settling for a double major, though, depending on admissions academically (ie. admission to dream school with some/decent aid > admission to CMU with no/very little aid..hmmmm...possibly. hahah) : )</p>
<p>You may want to read and pass on this thread to your parents as well <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/460187-how-many-music-voice-performance-majors-find-jobs.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/460187-how-many-music-voice-performance-majors-find-jobs.html</a></p>
<p>mihan
a fairly definitive answer for you would be to schedule a lesson/evaluation with a fairly highly ranked flute studio teacher at one of the colleges/conservatories and asking them to be honest about your chances for success and how you compare to the level of talent they are used to admitting.This would be an entirely different perspective than how you fare at a competition. An excellent studio prof worth their salt will be honest with you,like Mr DeBost at Oberlin,who is known to be frank and honest.</p>
<p>Take a look at the University of Michigan. The flute teacher (Amy Porter) is fabulous, the winds overall are very strong, plus the academics at the School of Literature, Science and the Arts (LSA) are great, particulalry in the Honors Program. We were once reluctant parents too (and the Peabody articles were very, very helpful), so I sympathize, but UMich has managed to convert us.
Princeton is also not such a far fetched idea. The orchestra conductor does do some recruiting of top instrumentalists, and a number of them study with teachers in NYC and Philadelphia. Good luck!</p>
<p>My daughter auditioned at Oberlin, Eastman, Peabody, Hartt, SUNY Purchase and Montclair State in NJ. She was rejected by the first three, accepted at Hartt and waitlisted at SUNY Purchase. She became friends with the conductor at Montclair State over the summer when she attended the Performing Arts Institute and he encouraged her to apply. She took a lesson with the flute teacher, Susan Nidel Palma, who is the principal flautist with Orpheus. Susan impressed my daughter so much that she made up her mind to accept their offer. They have an up and coming music program with a brand-new music building to be completed within the next year. The proximity to New York City offers so many opportunities. I'm totally impressed with the quality of the school and am really glad that she made a decision to go there. Check it out! It's a selective school and I understand they only took 2 flute performance majors this year. Being a state school, the tuition is so much more reasonable than the upper tier schools.</p>
<p>Thornhurst
Congrats to your D!
I'm curious to know if you inquired how a busy performer like Ms Palma (with Orpheus) who also is on faculty at Columbia handles her studio responsibilities at Monclair.Do they have a Graduate program with DMA students to handle the studio time responsibilities (not the lessons, the other required studio work) This always puzzled me, with big time performer names listed as the studio teacher, how all the "extra time stuff" was handled.
In D's case, the studio teacher who came in as a replacement in Nov of her freshman year after the studio teacher resigned due to illness, took aleave of absence from her Symphony position .She was listed as "Visiting Faculty" The following year she actually resigned from the Symphony and was hired F/T as Associate Professor".She did have a PhD,however.
Would love answers from others whose studio teacher was a "big name" as well.</p>
<p>Houghton College in New York has a great music program--the Greatbatch School of music.</p>
<p>BEK, D is also flute applicant next year at many of the schools you have been mentioned. Do you know what the SAT expectations are for Northwestern School of Music applicants? Is it the same for the regular university?
Can you give me insight as to what to expect from these auditions?
Momager</p>
<p>A little off topic, heheh, but anyone going to the NFA convention this year either just for fun or to compete? I would love to meet you there if you are! : )</p>
<p>(and if you weren't going to go, um. You should. Yeah. Just do it! Book that ticket to Kansas City!! :D)</p>
<p>Susan actually requested my D as a student. She's only there for lessons on Mondays and takes only what she can handle in that one day. As far as studio time, I'm not sure how that works. I know there's at least one other flute teacher at Montclair who is also supposed to be very good. My only concern is that my D is happy there and she REALLY likes the school, their program and the professors she has met. I'm confident it's what's right for her and that she made a good choice. She can always go to a bigger name school for graduate work. I like the proximity of Montclair to NYC. It's a great location.</p>
<p>University of Tennessee, School of Music has a good school of Music and a very dedicated and experienced Flute Professor (Shelley Binder<-me). I would be happy to give you a free lesson if you come to UT for an on campus visit.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:GamutUT@aol.com">GamutUT@aol.com</a>, 865-974-7532, web.utk.edu/~sbinder</p>
<p>the College of Wooster also has a very good flute professor. i'm in the studio, so if you have any questions, send me a PM. :)</p>
<p>momager,</p>
<p>SAT expectation for the School of Music applicants is definitely less.
The stats for music students enrolled in the fall 2007:
Mean class rank: 87% (94% for School of Arts&Sci)
SAT verbal: 671
SAT math: 688
Combined SAT: 1359 (1436 for School of Arts&Sci)</p>