<p>I'm looking for decent schools (can be a conservatory or part of a bigger school) that offer good programs in theory, composition, and music ed. >>Not performance<<</p>
<p>I am a good performer, a very good performer, but I hate it. I'd like to find a music program, hopefully a place with a known-name, that will give me a good education in theory/comp and music ed, with room to dabble in theatre arts.</p>
<p>Thanks
Alex</p>
<p>Try the Ivy League institutions. That's the trend I sense, at least in the academia scene, where it seems job seekers (for college theory and comp teaching positions) with terminal degrees (PhDs) from places like Columbia or UPenn or Yale seem to be having more success advancing into deeper interview rounds than people with terminal degrees (DMAs) from the likes of Juilliard, NEC, MSM, etc.</p>
<p>That may depend on what position the degree-holder is seeking; a conservatory and college programs with performance faculty may well hire a DMA over a PhD.</p>
<p>Since you mentioned music education, I would suggest that many state universities offer what you are looking for. NYU comes to mind, as well. The Ivies do not offer music education, at least the ones I know anything about (Columbia has grad. music ed., so maybe they have undergrad-?).</p>
<p>Have you studied theory and composition yet? Have you taken any courses in theory, solfege, composition, or anything like that in high school, or at a preparatory program? Have you taken piano lessons with any focus on theory? Have you composed any music, and has it been played?</p>
<p>Just wondering what you background is, so that better suggestions can be made :)</p>
<p>Compmom is right, music education as a term rings up a whole different feel. Academic composition and theory, is a world away from studying music ed, and the poster must decide which way s/he wants to go.</p>
<p>I wouldn't reccomend going to NYU for music ed though. A possibly $60,000 (including NYC living costs) per year for 4 years investment hardly seems worth it for a qualification into secondary school music teaching.</p>
<p>Agreed, music ed is a totally different focus and concentration than theory and comp. While the entry level theory, history, aural skills training, and basic piano skills will overlap, there is more depth and specific focus in the upper division requirements in these areas for a comp concentration.</p>
<p>Music ed will encompass a broad range of introductory courses and exposure to all instruments including voice, and focus also on both general and nusic specific teaching philosophies, observation and applied technique coursework.</p>
<p>If you are interested in straight music ed, I'd suggest that your most cost effective means is an instate public. Most do an excellent job in providing well trained music educators with a curriculum geared to achieve state licensure in your resident state. </p>
<p>There ARE reasons to look at music ed in an OOS public or private, particularly if in conjunction with a dual music degree. </p>
<p>Music ed coursework is usually NOT available to non-majors, although
it can vary by school. Introductory courses may be, but the practicum and applied coursework is usually restricted to music ed majors.</p>
<p>Knowing your focus and specific goals may help to offer a potential list to look at.</p>
<p>And I've got to agree with stephmin that NYU is probably one of the most expensive institutions to achieve a straight music ed degree. They are historically stingey with talent, merit, and need based aid if this concerns you.</p>
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The Ivies do not offer music education, at least the ones I know anything about (Columbia has grad. music ed., so maybe they have undergrad-?).
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I believe that some of the Ivies do offer some kind of education certificate program as an optional part of the major, but I don't know the details.</p>