GPA vs SAT debate

Applying to College
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<p>It looks like some people posting in this thread need to check some facts about poor people: </p>

<p>BW</a> Online | July 7, 2003 | Needed: Affirmative Action for the Poor </p>

<p><a href="http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ffp0621.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ffp0621.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ff0615S.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ff0615S.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/carnrose.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/carnrose.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/kahlenberg-affaction.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/kahlenberg-affaction.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p>A</a> Thumb on the Scale | Harvard Magazine </p>

<p>The</a> Best Class Money Can Buy - The Atlantic (November 2005) </p>

<p>The</a> Harvard Crimson :: News :: Recruiting a New Elite </p>

<p>Cost</a> Remains a Key Obstacle to College Access </p>

<p><a href="http://www.jackkentcookefoundation.org/jkcf_web/Documents/_JKC_Achievementrap_edit%20(2)%20for%20website%20-%202-21-08.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jackkentcookefoundation.org/jkcf_web/Documents/_JKC_Achievementrap_edit%20(2)%20for%20website%20-%202-21-08.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p>Legacies</a> of Injustice: Alumni preferences threaten educational equity--and no one seems to care. - Reason Magazine </p>

<p>Promise</a> Lost: College-Qualified Students Who Don?t Enroll in College (IHEP) </p>

<p>Colleges</a> reach out to poorer students - The Boston Globe </p>

<p>The</a> Associated Press: Study flunks 49 states in college affordability</p>

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<p>It looks like some people posting in this thread need to check some facts about poor people: </p>

<p>BW</a> Online | July 7, 2003 | Needed: Affirmative Action for the Poor </p>

<p><a href="http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ffp0621.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ffp0621.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ff0615S.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ff0615S.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/carnrose.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/carnrose.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/kahlenberg-affaction.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/kahlenberg-affaction.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p>A</a> Thumb on the Scale | Harvard Magazine </p>

<p>The</a> Best Class Money Can Buy - The Atlantic (November 2005) </p>

<p>The</a> Harvard Crimson :: News :: Recruiting a New Elite </p>

<p>Cost</a> Remains a Key Obstacle to College Access </p>

<p><a href="http://www.jackkentcookefoundation.org/jkcf_web/Documents/_JKC_Achievementrap_edit%20(2)%20for%20website%20-%202-21-08.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jackkentcookefoundation.org/jkcf_web/Documents/_JKC_Achievementrap_edit%20(2)%20for%20website%20-%202-21-08.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p>Legacies</a> of Injustice: Alumni preferences threaten educational equity--and no one seems to care. - Reason Magazine </p>

<p>Promise</a> Lost: College-Qualified Students Who Don?t Enroll in College (IHEP) </p>

<p>Colleges</a> reach out to poorer students - The Boston Globe </p>

<p>The</a> Associated Press: Study flunks 49 states in college affordability</p>

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<p>@ tokenadult:</p>

<p>You don't actually think I'm going to read all those.</p>

<p>Care to summarize?</p>

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<p>High-ability poor students have a worse time getting into college, getting money for college, and graduating from college than LOW-ability rich students. The current system is NOT mostly screening by ability; it is screening and supporting on the basis of family money.</p>

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<p>i have a 3.5 but a 2220 SAT and I got into Amherst. I think the SAT saved me.</p>

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i have a 3.5 but a 2220 SAT and I got into Amherst.

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<p>Amherst is a highly selective college. You must have been taking tough classes.</p>

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<p>I had a 1470/1600, and a 2170/2400 and I got rejected to Rice E.D., My gpa is 3.8 unwieghted, and a 93.8/100 weighted.......My class rank is 89/450..........Class Rank screwed me over...........I will have taken 10 a.p classes, and a 6-7 honors classes....</p>

<p>Honestly you need to have both, but I prefer the Sat, because anyone can get good grades if they work hard, how many kids can do well on a test, that measures critical thinking ability, obvisouly my opinon is a little biased, like everyone else on this thread lol.....but the Sat puts everyone on a single grading level, kids that go to grade-inflated schools and kids that go to grades-deflated schools..........</p>