Grad School

<p>Hey what if i got chosen to go to SEALs after graduation but i want to go to grad school to study MBA, will they let me keep my options or will i have to switch it to something else?
Or can i go to grad school after i finish SEALs training?</p>

<p>Man...you are looking WAY into the future. Concentrate on getting into USNA first, then finishing and excelling during plebe year, and THEN set your sights on SEAL. </p>

<p>And yes, you can go to grad school right after/during your firstie year and still go to BUD/S. But take it one step at a time.</p>

<p>Forget grad school. Odds are very slim. You will be going into the fleet after graduation, be it SEALS, surface, aviation, subs, or USMC.</p>

<p>i thought most people go to grad school after graduation, at least that's what my mid told me when i visited there</p>

<p>Your mid was wrong. One or two top grads in 20 or so selected majors, MBA not being one of them, spend the fall semester in grad school. The vast majority go directly to the fleet.</p>

<p>Yes the vast majority do go to the fleet however there are programs in place for some students to begin graduate work while in residence at USNA or Immediately following.</p>

<p>These are the two USNA/USN programs that have been discussed with my Mid. The Vgep (voluntary graduate education program) allows for graduate school to be started during your final year at USNA, courses are taken at area Universities while still in residence in Bancroft. Your service assignment is delayed until following graduation from a masters program. This program is especially suited for those students who validate many classes. The other program is Igep, Immediate Graduate Education Program at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey CA or Air Force Institute of Technology in Dayton, Ohio. This program is changing with service commitment beginning after completion of the program where as it had been running concurrently. He has also been given information on the National Science Foundation fellowships. If you are awarded a fellowship from NSF, you may pursue graduate studies immediately following USNA at most any University to which you have gained admissions. These are very competitive and you are competing with undergraduate students throughout the states.</p>

<p>See page 73 off the USNA Catalog. It describes some of the programs available for advanced education.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usna.edu/Catalog/2005-2006academicprofessionalbb.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usna.edu/Catalog/2005-2006academicprofessionalbb.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Profmom, i went and looked it up on the catalog, and the options are all some scholarships.
What if i want to pay for my own graduate school? or is it extremely hard for me to go to any graduate school with or without a schorlarship?</p>

<p>right out of the academy, your chances are slim. You need to research the career paths of SEAL officers. There are oppertunites at the Junior/senior war colleges as well as Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, CA.</p>

<p>The chances are very very slim. VGEP has a maximum limit of 20 per year total. The other programs, with the exception of the medical schools, have even less. And, in your case, none are for MBAs.</p>

<p>If the Navy assigns you graduate education, they pay for it and the officer will have an added military obligation added to his service. The only other way to get a grad degree is in one's own time, during off hours. There are programs to receive financial assistance for this. However, as a new Ensign in the fleet there will be other priorities. I would not recommend it until four or so years down the road when one has their first shore duty assignment.</p>

<p>And then even with the existing programs, it might not be a good career move. For aviation, there are the notorious summer thunderstorms throughout the flight training areas. Waiting pools develop and grow. The ones who arrived first are the ones who get ahead of the pools. My son, an honor grad in aero, was distraught that he was not selected for VGEP. He took the first Pensacola date that was offered his class, and showed up and started a week earlier. There were four Academy grads in his graduating flight school class. The other three were from the Academy class previous to his. In his pipeline, he was the second person in his class to graduate. When applying for select programs, he has more fleet experience than his contemporiaries. He is also a couple of courses away from a Masters and will probably tell you today that not getting VGEP was one of the best things that ever happened to him.</p>

<p>Similiar situations to the above exist in other communities. Imagine in the surface community that LTjg fitreps are due and your contemporiaries are well into SWO quals and, due to grad school, you are just reporting aboard. Who do you think gets the best evaluation?</p>

<p>Bottom line. listen to drbones. There are opportunites down the road for grad school. As a graduate, your priority should be to get into the fleet, get experience, and make a name for yourself. Grad school can wait.</p>

<p>I am in MBA school right now with a Navy '06 grad. I believe there were only two '06 guys selected for mba school, and this guy was the student XO of the academy his senior year and graduated in the top 30 in his class. </p>

<p>Two MBA students out of 1,100 shows you how competitive it is...</p>

<p>400U, If they are full-time students with no other military duties , if you don't mind, find out what program they are in. Unpublished programs such as this are nice to know. VGEP is only for the fall semester and is limited to one person per each of the 20 or so undergraduate major programs, business not being one of them.</p>

<p>Oh Monterey! Lola was born at Silas B Hayes Army Medical Cntr at the late Fort Ord, CA. </p>

<p>Oh to go to Monterey again!</p>

<p>The NPS at Monterey is a beautiful place to go to Grad School! :) DLI is also in Monterey (Defense Language Institute).</p>

<p>Thought I'd share :)</p>

<p>I'm kind of wondering, if you are chosen for BUD/s but you are working on your Masters (Say you Validate a good portion of your classes), and you did decide to get the MBA(?) would you lose your spot at BUD/s?</p>

<p>They only give out like 20-30 spots for BUD/s per year at the USNA, and then for ROTC and OCS it's like 20-30 combined (if that, I'm told it fluctuates to the point where they might not take anyone from OCS). But your looking at 1/8 BUD/s attendees are Officers (maximum I believe), so if you have 500 people a year going to BUD/s, you have about 62 Officer slots open. If you were selected but went off to do more schooling, wouldn't you lose that very valuable slot? </p>

<p>And I have no clue as to how you would compete for a slot once you are finishing off your Masters...</p>

<p>Plus as an Officer you only get one shot at BUD/s so, if you don't make it you will have to find yourself a new rate. I'm not sure how it is done for Officers but, Enlisted get EOD, SWCC, Diver, Naval Infantry (When it is implemented if it hasn't been yet), and XDivision where you "chip paint" =x. I'm told it is a bit random with what you will be able to choose, and some people don't get to choose, but USNA personel who attend BUD/s have like an 80% passing rate, so good chance "you" could make it through BUD/s.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usna.edu/acdean/adpnotes/1560.060828Class07VGEP.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usna.edu/acdean/adpnotes/1560.060828Class07VGEP.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You can consider that the 'Class of 2007 VGEP Profile.'</p>

<p>As for BUD/S and grad school, there's a BUD/S selectee, class of '06, on the baseball team. He's currently going to grad school, and will report to BUD/S early this summer.</p>

<p>Hm I see, thx for that info.</p>

<p>Though I can't see the link, don't have access to it =[.</p>