Graduating in 4 years or less?!?

<p>The stats show about 65% graduate in four years. TO me that is extremely low. Maybe, its because since UCBerkeley accept many underqualified in-state students that make up over 90% of the school demographics...but idk.</p>

<p>It's really important to me that I graduate in 4 years or less. Some ppl attribute the difficulty of it due to not being able to get classes. </p>

<p>I am currently admitted to Coll of natural resources ( I WANT TO GET OUT OF IT N BE PLACE IN LETTERS N SCIENCES BUT DONT KNOW WHERE TO START). I would really like to be place in LnS before freshmen year.</p>

<p>Would taking summer courses help me with graudating early?</p>

<p>Im thinking about becoming a psych major and i know thats a popular course so idk if it would be easy for me to graduate in 4 years.</p>

<p>it is VERY possible to graduate in 4 years. Taking summer courses would certainly expedite that process. It is also pretty easy to switch from CNR to LS although you cannot do it until after your first semester because they need a semester of grades. Psych is impacted, but as far as I know, that doesn’t make it any more difficult to graduate on time. Just plan accordingly and it is not a problem. Here’s info for changing colleges:</p>

<p>[Current</a> UCB Students Transferring to CNR](<a href=“http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/site/changing_colleges.php]Current”>Frequently Asked Questions | UC Berkeley Rausser College of Natural Resources)</p>

<p>LOL

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<p>Berkeley (as with all the other UC’s) was meant to serve us. Not trying to be condescending, but you should be **thankful ** the UC’s give OOS-ers a shot, cuz there are many qualified in-staters that’d be dying for your spot.</p>

<p>wow I don’t agree with underqualfied, I always had the impression that Berkeley picked the best Californian students into their college, which is why the college is so prestigious. It’s really the alumni and honorifics of the professors of the colleges that makes the college great because those alumni make it in the business, research, and academic world, which brings more grants and opportunities to the college by various government and private companies and organizations. (Btw I’m OOS from Idaho but I agree with missionewozzz(lol nice name)</p>

<p>Um pretty much everyone graduates in 4 years. I bet that 65% means than ~30% graduate before 4 years.</p>

<p>lol good catch flutterfly (also another good screen name, darn it why did I make a lame one…)</p>

<p>It’s very easy to graduate in four years. You just need to plan ahead and know what you’re doing. The people who don’t graduate in four years are most likely the ones who didn’t know what to do and didn’t declare a major til like 3 years in.</p>

<p>And, you are pulling facts out of nowhere. 90% of Berkeley aren’t filled with under-qualified in-staters… Almost everyone who gets into Berkeley are qualified, in-staters or not.</p>

<p>Erm… maybe I’m missing something here. But aren’t you absolutely required to graduate in 9 semesters? And don’t much fewer than 35% of the students get that 9th semester extension?</p>

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Only if you have met the graduation requirements for your major. The rule is to prevent people from refusing to graduate.
The 65% is for 4 years or less, not strictly 4 years.
The stats back in 2002 was much worst: 44%, 75%, 82% for 4, 5, 6 years, respectively.</p>

<p>Funny… I was admitted for Fall 2010 and on my Berkeley page it says I’m expected to graduate in 2013 rather than 2014.</p>

<p>@cantsaywho,</p>

<h2>where did u find that and what school did you apply to.</h2>

<p>Also if I want to transfer from CNR to CLS after first semester, can I still grauduate in four years?</p>

<p>Yes.</p>

<p>just sign up for your intended LS major courses your first semester. although even if you don’t, you could probably still graduate in 4 years.</p>

<p>@jbtheeunknown,</p>

<p>we sign up for classses when?</p>

<p>During CalSO this summer if you are going to that. The exact time will depend on what days you sign up to go. The earlier you go, the earlier you get to sign up for classes. If you aren’t going to CalSO, then check their website and see what the directions are for how to sign up for classes.</p>

<p>I think part of the reason that the 4 year graduation rate is so low is because there are a lot of transfer students at berkeley</p>

<p>This info is from UC StatFinder:</p>

<p>Entering class from high school 2004
4-yr graduation rate: 69.3%
5-yr graduation rate: 89.3%</p>

<p>Entering class from community college 2006
2-yr graduation rate: 58%
3-yr graduation rate: 86%</p>

<p>The numbers in my previous post which are lifted from a UC press release are not consistent with the StatFinder. Also, when UCs mention 4-yr graduation rate, they may not include the transfers.</p>

<p>Another thing that attributes to people not graduating in 4 years ( spoken by an CAL admissions officer) is because many students take gap years or study abroad usually between their freshman and senior year. I know that I’m planning to study abroad for at least 1 semester which means I won’t graduate in 4 year. </p>

<p>I think 65% is actually pretty high, and 65% doesn’t mean that there’s a 35% chance that you won’t graduate in time. Just like there isn’t a 20% that you can get into CAL. If you do get into CAL than the chances were that you were probably a good candidate . Likewise, if you plan accordingly and study hard than you’ll probably graduate in time.</p>

<p>It also covers those that drop out. Of ALL people who enter, how many finish in four years. You will have to look very hard to find people here who aren’t right on track to graduate in four years and those who already graduated also did it in four.</p>

<p>Cal has a high rate of graduation for athletes. All the seniors on the bball team graduated because they weren’t good enough for the NBA. Not graduating in 4 years doesn’t mean they drop out or weren’t smart enough. Engineers are required to graduate in 4 years.</p>