Graduating senior here, will answer questions

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<p>Hey Tisch Center for Hospitality is under the umbrella of SCPS. Please no one flame for this but I will tell you that the on campus perception of hotel management and sports management is that these are the kids that couldn't have made into any other program in NYU. I dunno the selectivity for these programs but I will give you the facts I do know. My suitemate got stuck in a Pre-Calc class because of low SAT math scores and said the rest of his class was nearly all Sports Bus and Hospitality students whom he said were not too bright. In addition the kid who never came to class in my AP Enviro class in HS made it into Hospitality Management. At the end of the day though I would imagine these are good programs cuz we're in NYC and the connections, internships, resources etc. are there. And look at it this way people in GSP get harassed all the time but they're still here. If you wanna do the hospitality programs at NYU I'm sure they'll lead to good things for you.
BTW really random comment here but I'm a member of the supposedly small (but strong nonetheless) greek community here at NYU. If you decide to come here and are in need of community, consider rushing a frat or sorority. If you find one you gel with you'll have a good little community to fall back on</p>

<p>If there's more questions people can ask me too, I'm a second semester freshman who used College Confidential all the time in HS. And if it helps I was grade-crazy and hellbent on prestige. I was a huge snob. I wasn't going to come here originally but trust me I'm glad I'm here. The education is good. People brag about ivies but look when you're an undergrad, you're an undergrad anywhere. Grads get better access to faculty and such, that's pretty true anywhere. Intro lang courses are taught by T.A.'s at Columbia too. I'll talk a wee bit about my studies here so far too cause I should be studying but it's more fun to procrastinate :).</p>

<p>I'm in Tisch. Programs here are probably the best you'll get in your chosen field but make sure you are truly focused on what you want to study when you apply. I'm in dramatic writing and though I loved it leaving HS once I got here I changed my mind. Tisch programs are BFA programs which means you will mostly study your artform in lieu of academics. You'll have about a 40 credit liberal arts core and 24 points of electives but if you have a lot of different interests this might not satisfy you. I know it was too constricting for me so I'm considering a switch to CAS. Keep that in mind. The only other dept I can really talk about is German, since I'm in an Intenseive German class this semester. We meet every day for it, and it's taught by the director of the German Language Program. If you wanna study langauges I recommend NYU for it. We have language houses in most of the popular languages (French, Italian, Spanish, German, and Irish and Chinese). Many of these houses are actually non-profits partnered with NYU and so their programming attracts not only NYU students but those from the outside who are interested as well. This stands in contrast to those offered by Columbia which are much more integrated into the University and exist more for the students and revolve more around the faculty's work which may be better in some people's minds but at least for me I'd rather have access to something not solely focused on University students since the langauge programs themselves are there for that. Anyway that's my 2 cents. Hope this helped in some way.</p>

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<p>futurenyustudent: I'm assuming you're in CAS. Theory is more quantitative, and it's more geared towards someone who wants to pursue a PhD and stuff. If you're taking theory, it might be rough to double minor. However, I don't really think a prebusiness minor is necessary at all, if you're just aiming for a Wall St job (which is what I assume is the deal).</p>

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<p>Pre-business minor not necessary? Why do you say that?</p>

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<p>I heard policy track with a prebusiness minor is the way to go if you want wall street.</p>

<p>Yeah I'm look at wall street after graduation. And I'll probably take a bunch of stern classes, since I'm more interested in microeconomics than macroeconomics. Macro's kind of boring, to be honest.</p>

<p>Does policy track have a lot of macro? I'd prefer to concentrate more on micro with a good background in macro. I'm more interested in going to wall street and then eventually getting an MBA. I intend to pursue some sort of career in finance. And yes I'm in CAS.</p>

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<p>FBI_34: from my experiences at internships, etc, I've found that employers are totally willing to hire smart kids with 0 business background. Sure, it's helpful to have an accounting or a finance course, but Wall St firms understand if you don't and the big firms will train you anyway. I think proven quantitative skills and critical thinking skills are just as highly valued, and you'll get that in econ (more so if you do the theory track).</p>

<p>futurenyustudent: Well, I can't tell you from personal experience or anything what the "way to go" is as a CAS student. However, since some of the kids I worked with at my summer internship had stats and history majors and didn't have ANY finance/accounting background whatsoever, I'm fairly confident saying that it doesn't really matter which track or minor you pick, as long as you do well in it. </p>

<p>I mostly wanted to discourage you from the prebusiness minor because it won't really add anything special to your resume, at least in the eyes of the recruiter, and you don't want to have to waste credits on marketing classes and stuff like that just to fulfill a minor. At most, take the intro to accounting and the intro to finance class. Heck, if I could do college over again, I might've even done a math major instead + then applied to where I'm working now :P</p>

<p>I'm not 100% sure what you mean by taking Stern classes to learn more micro stuff - microeconomics will always be in the econ department... I don't think either track is any more "macro" than the other. I'm under the impression that you have to take an equal # of micro & macro core classes, and then you can take electives and choose which side to concentrate on.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.econ.nyu.edu/undergrad/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.econ.nyu.edu/undergrad/&lt;/a> has all the info you need~</p>

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<p>youkosiren...you seem pretty informed...any way I could do a finance minor as a CAS student?</p>

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<p>Damn youkosiren you really know what you're talking about - thanks a lot for all the information.</p>

<p>Just curious...what internship are you doing now?</p>

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<p>I would hope I'd be informed, since I'm about to graduate XD</p>

<p>futurenyustudent: I don't think you can minor in finance, but you can take the intro to finance class (Foundations of Financial Markets) and probably some higher level finance courses if you pound on enough doors and beg people to let you register. </p>

<p>FBI_34: now I'm interning at a very small hedge fund (~$40mil), and will be working at a very large hedge fund after graduation (~$25bil). I did my junior year summer internship at one of the big investment banks though.</p>

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<p>I have to agree with youkosiren. If companies see that you are really smart, you can definitely do just fine without a business background.</p>

<p>The thing about doing minor(s) is that you should really only do a minor if you are interested in the courses and would happily take them anyway as electives. A minor isn't really that valuable after graduation except to the extent that you enjoy and learn from the classes. Businesses will be interested in your undergrad major and your transcipt/GPA. They may even be interested in your quantitative coursework if it is relevant to the position. A business minor (or any other minor for that matter except maybe Math) probably won't get much consideration. By that stage, the company should already be convinced that you are qualified. </p>

<p>I guess things might be different on Wall St, but I did a lot of interviews and participated in the decision process at the research consulting firm where worked for 2 years after NYU. The first stage is to figure out whether or not a candidate is qualified and can handle the workload. I have never heard of a minor impacting this decision one way or the other. Since like most businesses you are going to go through internal training, as long as you are qualified, the most important thing is finding someone who is a good fit aka "Would I enjoy working with this person?" </p>

<p>I don't mean to discourage you from doing a business minor or any other for that matter. I loved both of my minors (urban design/architecture and history) and would make the same decisions again. But, my recommendation is to use your electives to take courses you are going to enjoy and that are going to make you come across as an interesting, knowledgeable person. If that leads you to a minor (business or otherwise) then that is great, but if not I really wouldn't worry.</p>

<p>One other note about theory vs. policy – both tracks give a good background in Micro and Macro. In general the theory coursework is intended for people with a strong mathematical interest who are looking to go on to a Phd. Unless you have a particular job in mind where it would be relevant, I think to some extent the pre-business minor and the theory track are mutually exclusively (at least in terms of their value for your career). I don’t think there is a need to do a theory major if you want to do business / an eventual MBA. That said, if you are looking to really challenge yourself it definitely couldn’t hurt.</p>

<p>Disclaimer: It has been a few years since graduation. I don’t know how much effort NYU has put into improving the pre-business minor and marketing it to recruiters. It is possible that its value has increased since I graduated.</p>

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<p>thatguyweknow, I'm applying as a Fall transfer to the sports management program at NYU and my friend at NYU told me that some looked of the kids she came across seemed like "dumb@sses" lol. But even if the program itself may not be that selective, I'm sure NYC will allow for great opportunities like you said. Also, when you say a low Math SAT score will get you stuck in precalc, exactly what kind of score do you mean? Anything below 700? 600?</p>

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<p>I'm glad you're gonna go ahead with Sports Management as you say since like we both agree I'm sure you will get places and at the end of the day if you're happy who cares what others think (And besides if the rumors are true you'll just stand out more in your classes ;) ) As far as the low math score thing, my suitemate is in Stern and Stern requires completion of Calc I and I think that Sat math thing was more a Calc I requirement or a Stern thing than a general university policy but from what I remember he said it was because he got below either I think a 600 or a 650. Something like that. Hope that helped. If you're takin AP Calc though I think you should be fine since that counts for Calc I anyway. Since Sport Business is in SCPS I think you mite not need calc but I could be wrong... I know they take stats so the precalc might've been a prereq for that. If anything try to attend a Tisch Center open house and ask that question. Hope that helped!</p>

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<p>wow i would feel like a retard. and we take precalc again....</p>

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<p>umm..this is a short question:
r u guaranteed housing all 4 yrs or r upperclassmen forced to live offcampus?</p>

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<p>dk128:</p>

<p>Oh geez, someone resurrected this thread? :)</p>

<p>If you go into housing as a freshman, then yes, you're guarenteed housing for all four years, provided you make all the paperwork/payment deadlines. NYU will provide a bed for you, even if it means putting you into a hotel. (It's happened before.)</p>

<p>If you decide to commute/rent for the first year or two and then decide you want NYU housing, then you'll be put on the waitlist every year you reapply.</p>

<p>In short, if you need housing, then it's best to go with NYU dorms. In my opinion, it's a better deal than getting an apartment outside. For your $11k, you get nine months of housing which includes 24-hour security; all the hot water, electricity, cable, and Internet you could ever want; laundry machines in the building; free transportation to and from campus; plus access to the dozens of special ResEd programming in your residence hall.</p>

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<p>How difficult is it to transfer into Stern from another University?</p>

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<p>I'm not sure if you're familiar with Gallatin, but I really like the whole idea of the place and my only problem is that I want to be a math major and possibly fine arts minor. From what I've seen many people in Gallatin have arts and humanities concentrations, but no math/science. Do you think Gallatin is still a good choice to combine my math and art interests? </p>

<p>Thank you!! :D</p>

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<p>How difficult is it to transfer into Stern from another University?</p>

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<p>kush10:</p>

<p>Why'd you post twice? It's not like I'm going to answer any faster than I can.</p>

<p>Regardless, I wouldn't count on it. From what I hear, it's quite competitive for CAS students to get in, let alone students from outside institutions.</p>

<p>christigrace:</p>

<p>I'm familiar with Gallatin. I accompanied my younger sister to an admitted students' event two weeks ago. :)</p>

<p>I'd have to know more about what you want to do regarding your interests before I can say if Gallatin might be for you. Do you want to explore the intersection of math and say, Enlightenment art? If so, then Gallatin might be for you. However, if you want to do mathematical research and become the next Picasso, Gallatin might not suit your desires. You should remember that the "whole point" of Gallatin is your colloqium during senior year. If literature fits into your educational plans, then it might be a go. :)</p>

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<p>first of all..i appreciate that you are doing this for us shades :)</p>

<p>i'm also planning on taking premed track so it's perfect to ask you my concerns..</p>

<p>i kinda have a lot.. sorry :P</p>

<p>--
well i'm from SoCal and i'd love to be exposed in NYC environment...it's gonna be a fresh experience since i've never been out of out CA that much..</p>

<p>my major concerns for choosing college are:
1. difficulty of getting relatively high GPA.. >3.7...judging from previous posts i think if you work hard it's possible...
2. how..as an institution..is this college going to help me to get accepted to med school..
3. tuition..</p>

<p>see i didn't get a lot of merit scholarship like you did..and after four years..i think i'm going to talk away with 80k in loans alone...however, my parents are willing to pay that if i really want to go to nyu
as a premed student trying to get into a medical school..how did NYU help you?</p>

<ul>
<li>how do you feel about your professors? i know it's a big private school and it isn't going to be as intimate as LAC would but how approachable are they? do you think i can get a good letter of rec without much brown-nosing? </li>
</ul>

<p>-are there a good amount of research and clinical opportunities there?i heard both UCB and UCSD has a lot of research opportunities but competition is so great that you are certain to be on a waiting list.. that wouldn't help me at all</p>

<p>-overall, how competitive is it over there? is it cutthroat? more laid back? how hard is it to get over say.. ~3.7GPA? students don't sabotage others to raise their grade and such? (believe it or not some schools have this kind of atmosphere) i'd hate to be in this kind of cutthroat competition.. since i'm already sick of it from my current high school...</p>

<p>-is..after all these experience you had at college...is undergrad really that important for med admission? i mean yeah if you are from harvard it'll probably make a difference..but that's cuz they have crazy inflation there..</p>

<p>-are counselors helpful at all in terms of prepping you for med school admission process? like mock interview and such..</p>

<p>everyone's been telling me that... for premeds..
undergrad doesn't matter as much.. </p>

<p>"go where you will socially, academically, and emotionally succeed"</p>

<p>how do you feel about this?</p>

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<p>shades_children, I would prefer to study mathematics with the intent of research in the future and I am hesitant about how literature-based the Gallatin program is. The reason I am holding onto Gallatin is because I would also like to study things such as the fine arts and international relations and I wasn't sure if in CAS I would be able to. </p>

<p>Thank you so much for your reply and help!!</p>