GT Civil Student- Academic advice

<p>Let me start by telling yall a little about myself. I was born and raised in a small town in Georgia. I have a passion for the outdoors. I would have pursued a job with a department of natural resources, however they do not pay well. Now to my current situation:</p>

<p>I am currently working on my third year at Georgia Tech as a Civil engineer, however I am unsure If I am pursuing the correct major. I originally decided to do civil engineering becuase I thought I would enjoy getting into construction management/contracting and I feel that it is a field which you can make your name big if you are ambitous; I am a very ambitious individual. I am starting to see a lot of civil engineers graduating finding desk jobs doing CAD all day. Now I don't mind being a legit engineer, however I don't want to spend my whole career designing structures and doing CAD work. I repeat, I want to get on the management side of things, or even sales. I would not enjoy my job if Im at a desk 24/7.</p>

<p>With this in mind am I pursuing the correct major? I know Industrail engineering is more business related, and mechanical engineering is more broad. Would one of those suit me better for my desires?</p>

<p>Before some of you on this forum bash me for pursuing engineering in the first place, I've been kind of unsure what I really want to do my whole life- its hard to figure out. I decided that business/management degrees are way to common, and I should take advantage of getting a free education to a Top 5 engineering school in the country. In my opinion, the degree is more prestigious and will serve me better regardless if I practice engineering or not.</p>

<p>Thank you to those who took the time to read this, and your input is much appreciated!</p>

<p>Why not pursue something like Construction Science?</p>

<p>I’m not gonna bash you for majoring in Engineering. Engineers must be bright to begin with and, hopefully, you’ve learned to be a keen problem-solver. That’s what the world needs more of. Solving problems fits well in many professions.</p>

<p>My concern is that you are projecting an entry-level position to “the rest of my life 24/7”. Who said that’s what you’d be doing the rest of your life 24/7? I for one, would not entrust bridge construction to someone right out of college. I would want them to learn the business of the business first. Sometimes, you just have to wait your turn.</p>

<p>I’m not sure what things are ike in your area of GA, but across the country we are overbuilt and underfinanced. Here in South Jersey, we have bridges falling into the bay but no funds released to repair them. Until things change (they will eventually), entry-level engineers will be working on studies and designs so that they will be ready for when the boom comes. </p>

<p>Stick with your major. Market yourself as a Field Engineer. Or a surveyor as your entry-level position. If that doesn’t work, accept the entry level design position and just wait your turn. I don’t think that a company would invest their time and training on you unless they had a plan for you to eventually get out into the field. Again, sometimes you just gotta wait your turn.</p>

<p>One more thing: The best managers are hands-on. Not necessarily the best at any task, but they’ve worked many spots along the line. Because it’s easier to manage effectively when you are not asking someone to do something that you wouldn’t do or haven’t done yourself.</p>

<p>Just saw this from Ken285:</p>

<p>Construction Superintendent </p>

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<p>I work for a construction management firm in a field supervision role. Even though this isn’t engineering, I’m adding this here because many civil engineering majors do enter the construction management field. There are a variety of roles in this field, and each of them are pretty different. The following is just one aspect of construction management.</p>

<p>Basically, I’m a part of a team whose job is to manage construction projects so that they are completed on time, on budget, safely and in accordance with project contract drawings and specifications. It’s easy to summarize, but difficult to achieve. There are so many factors and so many stakeholders involved that there is never a project that is run perfectly. Every construction project is different and is subject to different conditions, so there are steep learning curves.</p>

<p>I spend time both in the field office and in the field. In the office, I write daily reports, which summarize the manpower, work performed and the weather. There are also weekly reports and monthly reports that I have a role in writing. Sometimes I also put together reports detailing work in place. </p>

<p>The more exciting part of the job is the work that takes place in the field. I manage trade contractors, meaning I coordinate work among them and plan ahead. I make sure they are meeting the project schedule, and if not, figure out a mitigation plan. With the contractor, we determine the best means and methods for doing the work. </p>

<p>Safety management is also a signficant responsibility. Part of my job is to make sure everyone is doing their job in a safe manner and following the safety rules (such as OSHA, fire code, my company’s safety code, etc). For risky work, I review the procedure the contractor intends to use. </p>

<p>There are lots of meetings, some formal, some informal. They can be with the client, the contractors, inspectors, internal team members, etc.</p>

<p>My hours are technically 7am-4pm, though I typically like to get in at 6am to prepare for the day (the trades begin their day at 7am). I usually leave around 4:30pm-5pm, unless it’s my turn to cover the overtime work. We also have a rotation schedule for Saturday work. On my current project, we also have a 2nd and 3rd shift going daily (with separate personnel), because some work can only be performed at night due to logistics or proximity to active rail lines and subway station. That’s not the norm though.</p>

<p>It is a pretty stressful job though. There’s a lot of money on the line and everybody is looking after their own companys’ best interest, which creates adversarial relationships. Arguing with the the trade contractor foremen and project managers is common. The reward lies with seeing the completion of the project, knowing you had a significant role in the process. I pass by my old projects sometimes and I feel a sense of pride and accomplishment.</p>

<p>The economy has hit the construction industry hard, particularly the companies focused on general building construction. I have been recommended for a promotion 2 years in a row now, and still have not received it due to the economy. When things are good, things are really good. People shoot up the ranks, and there’s more work than we have the personnel for and actually turn down projects if necessary. The industry ebbs and flows with the economy.</p>

<p>The good news is that this job can’t be outsourced. You have to be on the actual construction site to do the work. Construction is also an industry that is not going away. Infrastructure will continue to decay and need to be rehabilitated and new buildings will continue to be built to accomodate the increasing population.</p>

<p>I love my job, though of course it’s not right for everyone.</p>

<p>Yep that’s me.</p>

<p>Construction management firms like to hire from all sorts of different majors, including civil engineering.</p>

<p>I looked through the GT Careers website, searching for a company listing by undergrad major and recognized a few contractors / construction managers on the list (and a few that are obviously contractors based on the company name):</p>

<ul>
<li>Bechtel</li>
<li>Crowder Construction Company</li>
<li>Forrester Construction Company</li>
<li>New South Construction Company</li>
<li>Skanska</li>
<li>Turner </li>
</ul>

<p>I’m sure there are more, but I’m not as familiar with the companies down south. I wouldn’t worry about being a civil engineering major if I were you.</p>

<p>GT does have a Building Construction major. I’m not really a CE person, so I can’t really get into CE vs. BC but maybe someone else can.</p>

<p>I’ve always recommended people to go into the civil engineering program instead of the building construction / construction management programs, if they can handle the more math/science intensive courses. Majoring in civil engineering does not prevent you from entering the construction side of the field, but majoring in building construction will not allow you to simply become a civil engineer. Why limit yourself if you don’t have to?</p>

<p>In terms of actual courses, undergraduate studies in building construction will typically have more of the business like courses. Personally, I think you can learn most of those things either through experience or on your own if you wanted to. Taking a construction law course would be beneficial though. I took it in the law school of my university and it covered a lot of things that were good to know that I probably wouldn’t have picked up on my own.</p>

<p>If you continue with civil engineering, you will actually know what it is you’re building and why it’s built that way. It’ll put you at an advantage over others in the field, especially in the heavy civil construction sector.</p>