guaranteed admission to Columbia

<p>I have been accepted to NEU, RPI, Drexel but i would like to attend columbia.
my scores low for columbia so my chances of getting in to SEAS are not the best.</p>

<p>However through the 3-2 plan with columbia they give automatic admission to anyone who goes to arcadia, or hofstra for 3 years, with a 3.0 and does the required classes.</p>

<p>is it worth passing on NEU to go to a small liberal arts college like arcadia for 3 years where the classes will not be challenging? and then going to Columbia where it will be hard to make friends as a junior.</p>

<p>the degrees through the 3-2 combined plan would be a B.A in computer science from Arcadia, and a B.S in mechanical engineering from Columbia SEAS.</p>

<p>would going to this program help or hurt my chances of admission to mba programs / top employers?</p>

<p>would it be easy to make friends in arcadia and columbia or will the other kids not want to be friends.</p>

<p>is the 3-2 combined plan a better option than a traditional engineering school given that i will have to sacrafice some of the college experience and work really hard to complete more classes.</p>

<p>does the risk involved outweigh the decision to attend the columbia 3-2 plan? because if i fail to meet the 3.0 gpa requirement i will be STUCK AT A SMALL LIBERAL ARTS SCHOOL.</p>

<p>personally i think that keeping a 3.0 gpa will be easy and that this is a valid program because other students have done it, arcadia university admissions said that 100% of engineering kids get in to the program so it is relatively low risk.</p>

<p>i just feel bad about turning down other respectable engineering schools to go to a worse school. </p>

<p>please let me know if you have </p>

<p>a) done this program and can speak of its legitimacy
b) know someone who did the program and now has a degree and is doing reasonably well
c) is it a good idea to do the program and reject the other school that are ok for engineering.
d) will it be easy to make friends at columbia once i get there as a junior if i do the program because i have heard they might look down upon the SEAS engineering students.</p>

<p>Thanks, </p>

<p>please check out the Columbia 3-2 combined plan because i am thinking of doing it but i am reluctant to attend arcadia and other small schools like that just for an amazing columbia degree.</p>

<p>It depends on what you want to do. Columbia has good Computer Science recruitment, perhaps better than NEU, RPI, or Drexel, so if this is the path you want to take, then you should consider the 3-2 program. You spoke about business school so Columbia would be a better bet than other universities.</p>

<p>If a 3.0 isn’t too hard to get and if you’re guaranteed admission to SEAS, then it seems like a done deal. Of course, you’ll miss out on senior year at your school and you’ll also do an additional year but the financial cost and career opportunities may be worth it.</p>

<p>In your situation, you need to decide fairly quickly what you want to do as a career. You don’t have the luxury of trying things out. This is up to you to decide and some of the questions you’ve asked have answers only you know. I know a couple people in the program. You’re treated just like an engineering student though you’ll be living in housing specific to the 3-2 program. Most of your friends will be through this program unless you really try to branch out. Keep in mind that Columbia has a fractured social scene, so it may be difficult to be a regular undergrad.</p>

<p>1) Career opportunities in finance are better at Columbia. CS may be better at Columbia than the aforementioned schools. You’ll need to do some research
2) Seems like pretty easy to get into 3-2 from what you’re saying so you already know your path, just pursue it
3) Be prepared for large sacrifices, perhaps a good group of friends at Arcadia and the risk that you don’t get into Columbia.</p>

<p>On your other post</p>

<p>1) Students don’t care about prestige that much once you’re at Columbia. We worry about the next step and how to get there, also the occasional Princeton, Harvard, or Yale jest but you stop caring after a short while. SEAS students aren’t looked down upon that much, since the admissions rate got much lower and no one worries about admissions anymore.</p>

<p>2) Social scene could be a risk. You’ll probably be friends with students in the 3-2 program. More importantly, there’s a lot of work which may reduce your free time.</p>

<p>thanks for your reply, this program seems reasonable to me.</p>

<p>If you want to pursue an MBA, undergraduate doesn’t really matter, as long as you have a high GPA and GMAT, as well as good work experience. However, good work experience is hard to come by if you don’t come from a top university, although it is not impossible to obtain good work experience from a lower tier university. But if you want to be recruited by top employers right out of undergrad, then going to Columbia is the way to go.</p>

<p>“However through the 3-2 plan with columbia they give automatic admission to anyone who goes to arcadia, or hofstra for 3 years, with a 3.0 and does the required classes.”</p>

<p>Wow, really? I had no idea Columbia had a 3-2 program with those colleges.</p>

<p>Its not just those colleges, there is a list of about 50 of them. Not many of them are very well known but these are the ones I applied to because i found out about this program last minute and they are rolling admission schools.</p>

<p>go to columbias SEAS website and there is a whole section on the “Combined Plan”</p>

<p>Wow, that’s incredible! It’s also an incredible backdoor into the Ivy League; I hope the elitists who disdain GS students never find about it.</p>

<p>I dont care what they think about the program, they are already elitist against the SEAS in general.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that Stanford, Harvard, and Yale are all recruiting undergraduates pretty aggressively right now. What was once true for b-school admissions is quickly changing.</p>

<p>Calling Columbia a “b-school” is pretty idiotic</p>

<p>^ Second that. Top business schools are looking for raw talent to mold rather than a proven track record. Based on hearsay, I’ve heard that a few KKR associates didn’t get into Harvard this year. It’s analogous to the top student at Phillips Exeter who is a legacy and recruited athlete not getting to Harvard.</p>

<p>Times are a changin’.</p>

<p>hi i would like to go to columbia and here are my quafications. grad class of 2012 from high school.</p>

<p>720 reading
720 math
720 writing</p>

<p>but low 3.3 gpa</p>

<p>lots of activties 2 year football player
1000 + hours of community hours
and list page of activites and clubs</p>

<p>live in Pittsburgh, PA</p>

<p>komaromy31</p>

<p>Why is it idiotic? It’s one of the best B-schools in the country!</p>

<p>can i get in or not looking at my prievious post???</p>

<p>@SEASvsTRADITION,</p>

<p>I am pretty interested in this program, and I am going to apply for it in the end of this year~</p>

<p>@Jasica
i am officially doing the program.</p>

<p>i applied to hofstra a few weeks ago and was accepted with 60,000 scholarship.
i visited the school and it is actually comparable to a tier 1 institution. it has a med school, a SEAS, a law school, and a business school. the student population there is very friendly and very nice.</p>

<p>I will be majoring in CS at Hofstra and completing mechanical engineering concentration classes for columbia, and then get a B.S in mechanical engineering from columbia in ther 3-2 plan. </p>

<p>please apply to hofstra because i dont know any other kids doing this plan there, and its actually a reasonable school unlike many on that list that i have never heard of. </p>

<p>also hofstra is building a new school of engineering and applied science so the degree there will only increase in value. </p>

<p>please apply, hofstra is rolling admission and you might get a nice scolarship, save a ton of money that can be put towards business school after 3-5 years of working for a technology consulting firm in NYC.</p>

<p>i encourage you to apply so i have friends there that are in this program.</p>

<p>@SEASvsTRADITION, so u r currently studying in Columbia? Does the school seperate 3+2 students with other four years students? Do these two types of students study or live seperately?
Thank u!</p>

<p>@ Jasica</p>

<p>No, since he has been admitted to Hofstra “a few weeks ago” he cant be doing the program.</p>

<p>Yes, the school separates the 3-2 students from the other students. They usually study and live separately.</p>