Guidance for girls who have excelled in math/writing

<p>My 11 (entering sixth grade) years old niece has shown some inclination for math. Though she has excelled in writing, science, English, art. However, math has become her forte. Her national test are in high nineties in all test. For fun, we did SAT math and she is scoring 750 above consistently. She can now do algebra, and has completed the book 1 of art problem solving. For fun, she is into dance, piano, loves history and politics. We are wondering if there is any program or any support for girls who have excelled in math. Recently she was also helped by a group of famous writer who saw her writing submitted by school. They told her that she has great writing style. Parents do not have many means and have are not good in english.</p>

<p>CTY offers summer programs for students showing exceptional abilities at a young age. </p>

<p>[Summer</a> Programs](<a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/summer/summer-programs.html]Summer”>http://cty.jhu.edu/summer/summer-programs.html)</p>

<p>CTY also offers online courses and FA for those courses</p>

<p>[What</a> CTYOnline offers gifted students](<a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/ctyonline/why_distance_education.html]What”>http://cty.jhu.edu/ctyonline/why_distance_education.html)</p>

<p>Since 1979, CTY has served the needs of academically gifted students worldwide by providing challenging programs matched to their abilities. CTYOnline distance courses offer eligible students opportunities to accelerate and enrich their learning at home or at school. Students can take advanced math, for example, without having to take a bus to a high school or college and without having to miss other classes at their local school. CTYOnline offers gifted students in grades pre K-12 challenging academic course work throughout the year. We bring together the best resources for each course, which may include multimedia resources, interactive whiteboard, web-based classrooms, texts, student guides, and CD-ROMs. Each student works with a qualified CTY faculty member who provides guidance, feedback, encouragement, and evaluation. CTYOnline courses are available year-round. </p>

<p>Students Use CTYOnline Courses Many Ways</p>

<pre><code>Some students use the courses to enrich and supplement the curriculum during the school year or to advance academic goals during the summer.
CTYOnline distance education courses are important components of the curriculum for many home schoolers.
Many students arrange to take CTYOnline distance courses for credit as replacements for classes at school. For information, visit Earning Credit and Placement and Partnerships with Schools.
Many take courses for the love of learning or to build confidence in the subject matter.
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<p>"Financial aid:</p>

<p>A long-term goal of CTY is to enable all qualified students to participate regardless of the family’s economic circumstances. Financial aid is available to students whose families demonstrate financial need by submitting the CTYOnline Financial Aid application with a copy of parent(s) most recent federal tax return. Students requesting aid must submit the financial aid application along with the CTYOnline Program Application (with required tuition deposit) at least 30 days before the course start date. If hardships exist in paying the deposit, applicants should contact the Financial Aid Office at (800) 393-6095 PRIOR TO submitting the applications. Failure to abide by these policies will delay the application.</p>

<p>Each student may apply for financial aid for only one session-based or flexi-paced course or, in the case of individually-paced courses, for one three-month period, per fiscal year (starts July 1). Additional financial aid in following years is based on previous satisfactory student performance, a complete written request for continued assistance, and available funds; however, there is no guarantee of additional aid. Financial aid for CTYOnline courses does not affect summer programs financial aid eligibility. Financial aid is not available for families with outstanding CTY account balances. For more information, visit [Financial</a> Aid: CTYOnline](<a href=“http://www.cty.jhu.edu/financial/distance.html]Financial”>http://www.cty.jhu.edu/financial/distance.html)</p>

<p>and from the CTY website is a link to gifted and talented resources"</p>

<p>[Links</a> to G/T Resources](<a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/gifted/links_resources/index.html]Links”>http://cty.jhu.edu/gifted/links_resources/index.html)</p>

<p>If your school has a MathCounts team encourage her to join. <a href=“https://mathcounts.org/sslpage.aspx[/url]”>https://mathcounts.org/sslpage.aspx&lt;/a&gt; For my older son it was a good way for him to socialize with other kids with similar interests. She should also take the AMC8 this fall. See if your school offers it. CTY <a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/about/index.html[/url]”>http://cty.jhu.edu/about/index.html&lt;/a&gt; American Mathematics Contest 8 - AMC 8 Another thing he did was teach himself computer programming. Summers your daughter might be interested in taking courses through [gifted</a> education, k12, accredited school, summer program, tag, g/t, distance education](<a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/]gifted”>http://cty.jhu.edu/) They have both writing and math courses. They are pricey, but do offer scholarships.</p>

<p>I’ll also second CTY, MathCount and will also recommend participating in </p>

<p>[Welcome</a> to the Math League](<a href=“http://www.themathleague.com/]Welcome”>http://www.themathleague.com/)</p>

<p>CTY actually allow 7th and 8th grader to take SAT I and if she score above 700 then she can join the select 700 club.</p>

<p>AMC8 is another examination that she should certainly take during the 6th, 7th and 8th grade and if she can score high on it she will be invited to take AMC10 and then AMC12 and then invitation to participate in International Math Olympiad by appearing for USAMO.</p>

<p>Congratulations! Your niece certainly has capabilities to make it to the US Math Olympiad and should give it a shot.</p>

<p>Another program similar to CTY is Duke’s TIP. [Duke</a> TIP](<a href=“http://www.tip.duke.edu/]Duke”>http://www.tip.duke.edu/)</p>

<p>She might consider the Smith Summer Science and Engineering program, which includes courses on writing, mostly aimed at encouraging girls who are already good at math/science/engineering to hone their skills as a writer. Financial aid is available and I’ve only heard wonderful things about this program, both from former participants and friends of mind who worked as counselors (including as writing counselors). [The</a> Smith Summer Science and Engineering Program for High School Girls](<a href=“Summer Science & Engineering Program | Smith College”>Summer Science & Engineering Program | Smith College)</p>

<p>Does she have a subscription to New Moon magazine and online community? My daughter and some of her friends really enjoy this safe and girl-empowering setting and she runs many fiction and other writing contests on the site, the girls also can get published.</p>

<p>HoagiesGifted.org</p>

<p>Has she taken a real SAT and achieved those scores, or is it just the practice tests? If it’s for real, she automatically qualifies for Johns Hopkins SET program [The</a> Study of Exceptional Talent (SET)](<a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/set/index.html]The”>http://cty.jhu.edu/set/index.html)</p>

<p>Also look into [Davidson</a> Young Scholars](<a href=“http://www.davidsongifted.org/youngscholars/]Davidson”>Davidson Young Scholars for the Highly Gifted | Gifted Program)</p>

<p>Both of these are free and offer services that may be of interest.</p>

<p>Feel free to PM me.</p>

<p>Where does she live? I know that Columbia University has a great Saturday program for math and science kids, if she lives in the metro area.</p>

<p>There is a great summer program for girls at Smith who are interested in math, science, and engineering. (Scholarships are available). It will take another two year , I think.</p>

<p>ehn - where does your niece live. </p>

<p>Seconding the others about DukeTIP - if she can score 800 in math by November or December SAT in her 7th grade and falls within the DukeTIP area, they offer a free scholarship to one of their summer college programs, worth 4k or so.</p>

<p>She lives near Philly, PA. </p>

<p>First, she has not taken a real SAT test. I timed her and she achieved those scores only on five practice tests test score varied but was above 750 on all of them. By timing her, I conducted a first English practice test and her score was 530. </p>

<p>One year ago, her cousin gave her few copies of old Mathcounts exams. She did not do well at all. The cousin bought her the Art of Problem solving Book. After reading the book and getting help from her current teacher who fortunately have taken keen interests in teaching her math concept, she seems to have picked her and is doing much better in those Mathcounts problems. </p>

<p>There is no Math count team in her current school. This city school kids have bigger family issues and do not care that much about classes. Actually in the school, it is not cool to be smart and none care about you. But few tecahers have been very good to her. </p>

<p>I will look in all these suggestion. Any further guidance is welcome. Thanks.</p>

<p>There are so many options available with proof other than the aunt’s word; I’d highly recommend you get her to a real SAT if at all possible. There is no age limit other than the ability to sit still.</p>

<p>I think Philly area is covered by Johns Hopkins SAT program.</p>

<p>Here is something you want to keep in your backpocket for next summer. UPenn has programs geared for girls in middle and high schools as well as outreach programs in the philly area.</p>

<p>Some may have a cost but you can always ask if they give a scholarship if you can’t afford it.</p>

<p>[Penn</a> Engineering - Connect With Penn Engineering!](<a href=“PESTLE | Penn Engineering Student Learning and Engagement”>K-12 Programs)</p>

<p>Every kid is different, of course. I can tell you that at that age we thought our son might well be a math prodigy. He took the SAT in seventh grade for a talent search and scored 780 in math, 720 in reading. He was an effortless A student in accelerated math throughout elementary, also a prodigious reader. He was obsessed with Guns, Germs and Steel that year, as I recall, and also deeply into Victorian literature. </p>

<p>Anyway, he did really well throughout his academic career but he (and we) discovered that the SAT reasoning test math is not really a reliable indicator of truly outlier math ability. Our son has nothing like the math aptitude of the math concentrators he met when he went to Harvard, for example. It’s just on a different level altogether.</p>

<p>So, certainly, this little girl is exceptionally bright and will need academic challenge along the road. And it may well be that she is a math “genius kid”. There are lots of people on CC who can advise on the right programs for determining that.</p>

<p>I will say that the twin abilities – verbal and math manifesting so early is truly rare and very special, regardless of whether she goes on to be on the Math Olympiad team. That melding of intellectual strengths is powerful, and arguably more valuable in the long run.</p>

<p>^Our son didn’t turn into a math genius either, but he’s a very, very good computer programmer with a very well paying job. I’m pretty sure that his time with Mathcounts and the various summer programs he did (one week of computer camp, various science CTY courses, a comp sci course at Columbia U’s summer school) all helped nurture his mathematical and logical abilities.)</p>

<p>BTW if I haven’t made it clear, I think nurturing writing abilities is equally important and at a school that doesn’t place high value on academics may be more culturally acceptable. (Working on school publications or the* New Moon* suggestion are great ideas.) Here’s the link to the New Moon website: <a href=“http://www.newmoon.com/[/url]”>http://www.newmoon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Give her the ability to take the AMC-8 and AMC-10, even before high school. Some local colleges and universities provide a testing site even if her school does not.</p>

<p>A sufficiently high AMC-10 score can get her invited to Math Prize for Girls. There’s really something about being in a room with 250 girls who are all there and excited about working on hard math problems.</p>