<p>everyone at hades schools acts and dresses like there from the vineyard when they not
hotchkiss is hotchkissy and deerfield is deerfieldy</p>
<p>Okay deerhotch, so I read and replied to your other post and it seems you harbor an immense hatred for prep schools and the whole admissions process.</p>
<p>I am not going to respond to this post in the cliched, “Oh not everybody is like that!” Let me get something straight to you deerhotch because obviously you have a skewed vision of what prep schools and admissions is like. The qualities you mentioned are the exception, not the rule. I don’t know what experiences you’ve had with prep schools but this is not true at all. Kids come from all over with different perspectives, different backgrounds, and who are you to judge a stereotype when you have no idea if these stereotypes predominate prep schools or not. They do not predominate. I admit there are some kids like that but they are the minority, and we feel you when you say how unclassy these “vineyard” kids are. </p>
<p>As for the Korean/Chinese/Asian kids concept (which you cleverly edited out of your post), how dare you assume that we are some kind of education-driven machines that were trained and engineered to handle the life of academia. What you can’t even begin to UNDERSTAND is that prep schools are life-changing OPPORTUNITIES for International Asians, whose parents have sent them halfway across the world to study in great schools. Why do you think we try so hard? Do you think it’s how we are geared? To work all the time and be smart? No it comes with work and determination that many Asians have because we KNOW that we are given a great opportunity by our parents and by the schools. Reading your other post on Financial Aid, you should know more about the concept of opportunities and how much you should cherish them.</p>
<p>have you even been admitted to one of these schools to be judging them?</p>
<p>deerhotch. I’ve been to a prep school since 5th grade. I am not ■■■■■■■■. You are wrongly assuming things and I would be less aggressive in my defense if you brought up these “key issues” in a less angry tone.</p>
<p>I see that you edited your post, but it doesn’t matter because you need to understand some important things about prep schools.</p>
<p>Goo goes to Choate deerhotch. If you said that you have been in the admissions game for 3 years then OBVIOUSLY you have not attended prep school either. </p>
<p>You ARE judging asians by saying they only come to prep school so that they can get into Ivy League schools. Way to edit your post to make yourself look innocent. You’re ridiculous. No wonder why you haven’t been accepted -__-</p>
<p>well that makes alot more sense now i can see now why your trying to defend what im saying is because your trying to defend yourself, you kind of just proved what i said…</p>
<p>“your trying to defend yourself”</p>
<p>@Deer: YOUR grammar and usage are atrocious. Maybe it’s because YOU’RE typing too fast. I’m wondering if YOU’RE not a new Pulsar moniker given that Deerfield and Hotchkiss were the two schools to which he claimed to be accepted before vanishing. Nothing like a good conspiracy theory, huh?</p>
<p>deerhotch,</p>
<p>It’s true, some of the kids at prep schools are like that, but the majority are not. There are plenty of FA kids at these schools and do you think they dress like they’re “from the vineyard?” No. Absolutely not. Look around at just one of these schools. And for Asians coming to these schools? I know my situation is that my parents know that it’s a great opportunity for me. My parents came to the US to give me and my siblings a better chance, to give us a better education. And because of that, I, myself, drive myself to work harder. Because I have been given this opportunity. And for Ivy Leagues? No. The school I want to go to, not an Ivy League. Don’t lump us all together, we may be Asian, but we are still our own individual people.</p>
<p>CC is not the same without Pulsar. Howard seems to know that too well! :D</p>
<p>Deerhotch, those are some pretty sweeping generalizations to make - especially since most HADES schools support 30-50% of their student bodies with financial aid - at some HADES schools, mine included, over 10% pay no tuition whatsoever. As I hope you can imagine, these kids don’t wear Vineyard Vines.</p>
<p>But, more importantly, they also don’t just come to boarding school for themselves. What I particularly love about my school is the emphasis placed on collective experience and outreach. Admissions at PA this year made 80 nationwide trips to recruit kids - many of them from historically underrepresented and underfinanced backgrounds. You’d be surprised by the people you meet here - of course there are some very well-off kids, but there are also plenty of less affluent kids, too. And the best part is that you usually can’t even tell them apart.</p>
<p>On my hall alone (of eight guys) two are on full aid, two are multimillionaires, and the rest are somewhere between. It’s beautiful how well we get along and how much we learn from each other this way, and it is this socioeconomic diversity that fuels the incredible sensitivity of our student body. Don’t get me wrong - there absolutely are snobs here. But they are a tiny, tiny, tiny minority, and tend to drive people here crazy. Pretentiousness doesn’t pass with students here.</p>
<p>As for your hypothesis regarding ease of admission for FA applicants versus FP applicants, you are right for international students, but much less so for domestic applicants. As has already been mentioned, schools have limited FA funds for international students. That certainly doesn’t mean that it’s not given, however - it just means that merit comes into the equation, and that’s why international FA students, at Andover, anyway, are some of the most brilliant students on campus.</p>
<p>All the kids I know that got into Andover are connected, legacies, rich etc. Even on CC, most people that got in seem to be connected, you yourself mentioned that you are a legacy applicant. So your post is like a glass half-full optimistic view. In reality, as deerhotch says, it’s an uphill battle for non-connected FA applicants.</p>
<p>thanks invent, finally someone understands this thread!</p>
<p>great minds think alike. id rather go to a public school and be with real people than be with a bunch of kid who think that their from the vineyard</p>
<p>Sorry if going to a private school suddenly makes me an alum of J.Crew Prep and a shoo-in for University of Vineyard Vines.</p>
<p>Deerhotch, it seems to me that you have a fixed stereotype on prep schools. I agree with TomTheCat; though there might be a few multi-millionaires that try to act like they are from the vineyard, I’m sure that at least 95% of the students there don’t think like that. I believe that strong prep schools give me an opportunity to challenge myself, not show off like a rich kid. So please, don’t have such a unreasonably biased view about these wonderful schools.</p>
<p>Me? I applied to Peddie. That’s not as “preppy” as some of the HADES you’ve mentioned! I’m not ignorant. I know where I want to go and what path I want to take in life, and that isn’t bashing other schools without the experience of attending them. I will fit in just right–but at a school who likes me for the bubbly, academically-inclined girl they’re about to receive, not some stuck-up girl who is uninformed about the world.</p>
<p>I rarely post on here anymore, not like I did before anyways…but I should actually be writing my history paper xD Anyways, my point is, I don’t post usually, but seeing this I had to reply earlier, and after some of these responses, there’s something I have to clear up. </p>
<p>I go to Exeter. It’s true that some of the people here are rich. And they make it clear that they are. But there’s also people like me. I’m on quite a bit of FA. I’m also not connected at all. No legacies, I didn’t know any Dean of Students, or Head of Admissions, etc. before coming here. I’m here, no strings attached to this school before. Want to get to know me then tell me that all the students here are snobs? I’ve met some of them, but TomTheCat is right. Those kids are the minority. There’s a lot of kids here who aren’t on FA but are just as down to earth as public school kids. I still don’t think of myself as a “prep school kid.” I went through 9 years of public school before I came here. Most of my friends still go to public school. Am I that different from them? No. I don’t think I’m better than them. Even my brother is still in public school, and there are many times when I think he might be working just as hard as me. Do not judge us all as being the same. I actually am not a very big fan of those who are the rich,snobby, and think they’re better than everyone else.</p>
<p>You may be in the tail of a Gaussian distribution!</p>
<p>It’s funny to see the misconceptions about boarding school from those who do not even attend one. I go to Choate, on FA. I am just as much a part of the school as that ‘typical vineyard’ group. That group is not pronounced at all here. Students who you think are down to earth and not showy at all actually do come from the wealthy CT/ MA/ NY towns. You would never know because money is not talked about, ever. My previous school in the Caribbean had more issues regarding rich and snobby kids more so than Choate. It’s unfortunate to see that there is a person out there who truly believes that boarding schools are just filled with rich new englanders because really, we are so much more and that person will not have the chance to experience the true boarding school culture.</p>
<p>@yellow22</p>
<p>I agree with everything you said, but this is a very common misconception, not just this one person. Even my parents had the opinion before I opened their eyes to boarding school. They originally thought that bs were for very rich parents that just wanted to get rid of their kids. We all know (including my parents obviously because I am going to a bs next year) that this is not true. That said, I cannot blame them for originally thinking that because they are in their 40s and 50s and boarding schools have evolved a lot since then. I would say the massive hike in available fa started in the beginning of the decade. That is also when endowments skyrocket. Anyways, since boarding schools reformed so much in the past couple of decades, many people still have that common misconception.</p>
<p>It is really a shame. One of my friends (or maybe not anymore) told me that bs was for rich kids who just want to buy their way into the world. I tried to tell him about all of the opportunities that bs offered that my public high school does not, but he just cut me off and told me that our school had the same opportunities. I was laughing a little inside, but just let it go. I was so sad after he told me that because I couldn’t believe anyone would think that. But I would have to remind myself that everyone didn’t have the vast amount of knowledge about bs that I gained during the application process. </p>
<p>I now find it really funny that some people think that bs aren’t diverse. This is really funny considering I go to a suburban high school that is majority white, middle to upper class. How the heck is that diverse. Bs has kids from dozens of nations, dozens of states, kids from all different types of backgrounds, ethnics groups, religions, races, socioeconomic status, etc. One of the main reasons I applied to bs is because I wanted a diverse school, that is something that most public schools cannot provide (especially mine).</p>
<p>There will be legacies and upper class kids at any boarding school and at any good university. Deal with it.
That being said, they aren’t the majority. Most kids get in due to academic achievement or interesting talents and perspectives.</p>