Hard Sciences: Carleton vs. Cornell

<p>I hope my question is implied by the title. I'm look at these two schools (and yes, I realized they're very different) and was wondering, which school do you think would offer a better experience for undergrad studies in chemistry, physics, and astronomy? </p>

<p>The reason I ask is that I would assume Cornell students would have better (i.e. more) resources while Carleton students would have better access to the resources that the school does offer (since no grad students). Is this an accurate assumption or am I off base? So, if I was really interested in actively participating in research which do you think would be a better choice?</p>

<p>from the publications i'v read from cornell, freshman can do research and lab work. i'm not going for anything related to sciences at cornell but i know they are top notch. never heard of carleton but they could be just as good. but cornell is unique in letting freshman undergrads do original research</p>

<p>carlton is a small midwestern liberal arts college of very high quality...I just don't happen to know anything about it. I do know that in general, lab work is available for freshmen at cornell.</p>

<p>That's pretty impressive that even freshman can lab experience at a school the size of Cornell. Any science majors (or others :D) out there who'd like to comment on having the opportunity to do your own research?</p>

<p>my good friend is building dna for Dan Luo. Here are Luo's credentials: <a href="http://luolabs.bee.cornell.edu/pdf/Luo_CV_for_Web.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://luolabs.bee.cornell.edu/pdf/Luo_CV_for_Web.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>if u want to do serious science, i don't think there's much of a contest. go cornell. And i did give carleton a look earlier this year so I know a bit about the place. I also spent some time in thailand with an alum this past summer.</p>

<p>i don't know anything abt Charleton...but here's what i wanna say...
Cornell gives freshmen an oppertunity to take part in almost all Research activities and ur directly taught by the best professors (THATS WHY I DIDN'T CHOSE STANFORD! DID U KNOW STANFORD UNDERGRADUATES ARE TAUGHT BY POST GRADUATE STUDENT) and the Cornell is probably the only univ where a freshman canh start his own original research.</p>

<p>Dude that is one beast of a resume!</p>

<p>what resume?</p>

<p>"Here are Luo's credentials: <a href="http://luolabs.bee.cornell.edu/pdf/Luo_CV_for_Web.pdf"&gt;http://luolabs.bee.cornell.edu/pdf/Luo_CV_for_Web.pdf&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/p>

<p>That resume is just ridiculous. It deserves an extremely slow clap.</p>

<p>I know Carleton has good physics and chemistry. The astronomy I am not so sure about. Anyway if you are looking into the hard sciences I am guessing you might want to continue with grad school degree which is honestly what really is going to matter in the job market. Both schools place well into top grad schools for the sciences. As for research opportunities, yes you may get more of the them at Cornell, but then again if you feel the need to do research as an undergrad while at a place like Carleton there are always summer opportunites with REU. Anyway, in all honesty I think you should look more at what kind of community you want to live in because both of these schools have good job and grad school placement. BTW Carleton has higher per capita PhD production in both fields. :P</p>

<p>I know Cornell is oustanding in the sciences but IceNine is right- Carleton is also an excellent school and you should visit both if possible to decide where you would feel happier. You can also make appointments with profs in your field of interest and get their points of view.</p>

<p>yeah luo is kind of close to the best in the world at what he does. My good friend goes to carlton; i'll ask her if she knows anything.</p>