<p>is McGill Engineering hard ??or is it doable ??whats the average gpa?? Specifically for elct and comp engineerng??</p>
<p>electrical is considered the hardest program at mcgill, but obviously if you work you can do well</p>
<p>Hardest program at McGill? Says who?</p>
<p>Difficulty is in the eye of the beholder, and yes, it is possible to do well in any program if you work hard enough (as long as you learn to procrastinate properly and not worry).</p>
<p>I dont think theres any other program at mcgill, where you have to take classes where 50% of the class fails. No exaggeration, ask anybody in elec comp or soft and theres a 50/50 chance they failed FEE( fundamentals of electrical engineering ) once. There are a few other MANDATORY courses like that which are pretty much just there to lower your GPA or force you out of the program. There are only a few courses like this early on( weeding ) though, the rest of the courses in the program are just as difficult, but by then your used to it and its merely a matter of staying on the good side of the curve.</p>
<p>Maybe engineer students just get into the program easily and don't know how to drop out. Basic algebra weeds out a lot of wannabe math students too, but they mostly bail out before they fail out (oh how quickly they realize "real math" isn't for them). The median grade in Luc Devroye's CS 251 midterms is 0: how's that for tough? How about honours physics program? Or worse: joint honours in whatever two difficult programs you can think of. Consider this: I've never seen a single person complete an honours in probability and statistics as described in the coursebooks: it requires 4 grad level probability and statistics courses that can pretty much only be taken in the last undergrad year because of their prerequisites. Even a master's in stats only requires 2 out of those 4 courses. </p>
<p>There are many "hard" programs out there, it's just that most of them aren't as well known or as popular as engineering, and students have a tendency not to enroll in them in the first place.</p>
<p>Honours intro to econ theory has a 60-70% fail rate, and it's the first core course for honours econ.</p>
<p>It's not even THAT hard. But it's hard for someone who isn't ready for it.</p>
<p>to Blobof, I dont know any person in engineering who didn't whip through the u0 science courses they had to take despite the science program being harder to get into. Linear algebra isn't that hard BTW, its only hard if your stubborn/retarded and dont look at past exams.</p>
<p>Av Eng Gpa = 3.2</p>
<p>McGill engineering is hard. It requires a lot of studying, plain and simple. Thing is, if what you want to be in life is an engineer, then it is so worth it. It is definitely doable. </p>
<p>Yea, some people find linear algebra a breeze. I did. That was all the stuff that high school math teachers refused to teach me. A (damn smart) friend of mine failed it. It wasn't the end of the world. He still lives down the hall from me. He's just taking it again this semester.</p>
<p>There is alot of math if you're in electrical. I mean a whole lot. At times ad. cal. might as well be martian. But when you sit there and do some problems from the book, reread the notes, etc. you get it. </p>
<p>Bottom Line: Being an engineer is extremely gratifying.
You tell people that you're an engineer and they look at you as if you're what makes McGill so damn impressive.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wake up in the morning(for my 8:30 and 10:00 math classes) and I think to myself, "****, I have sooo much work to do. Man, it'll be so cool to get that iron ring."</p>
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<p>Where did you get that info--I thought it was .5 lower</p>
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<p>I was talking about Basic algebra, not linear algebra. You know, MATH 235: groups, rings, fields, principal ideal domains and all that stuff, as opposed to MATH 223 (not offered to math majors): more vectors and matrices. Of course, the honours linear algebra (MATH 251) comes after basic algebra, and is much harder than the major (MATH 236) equivalent, which itself is much less mechanical than 223... </p>
<p>It doesn't make sense to claim such and such program is the hardest when you don't know the others. Of course, a lot of science and engineering students will claim their own program (or one close to theirs) is the hardest. But you there's no way to objectively measure such a thing. Sure, in the example above, there's a clear gradation between courses. But math students are in math because abstract structures is where their interests and strengths lie, but many have aversions for labs and experiments. Similarly most students not in a math program usually aren't so fond of the more abstract aspects of math and don't like epsilon-delta proofs so much. So what's more difficult: labs or proofs? As I said before, it's all in the eye of the beholder.</p>
<p>2.7? I don't think so. The ECC said it was close to 3.2 but I think they might have meant for MechEng. EE is probably closer to 3.0 Max. The median probably closer to 2.8, since you need a 2.8 to transfer there (or any other EngDep) whereas MechEng requires a 3.0</p>
<p>The only comment I have on this is: at least we can all agree that, for the most part, the faculty of science and engineering makes the faculty of management look like a joke (I say this with experience, not with blind zeal).</p>
<p>i wanna do engineering and pr-med though. like will a 3.4 in engineering give me a chance ?</p>
<p>I dont think med schools will care too much what you majored in aslong as you meet the pre-requisite course and gpa requirements. Med school is hard to get into, I think you need more like a 3.6 or 3.7 to be competative.</p>
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<p>True... One of my classmates went from a math degree to an MBA at the HEC, where she was accepted but told "it might be hard for you because you don't have a management background". She aced the thing with little effort.
Also, the only non-joke part of the faculty of education is the student teaching experiences (aka stages).</p>
<p>I'm finishing up an ethics course in the fac. of educ. (EDER494), and I can confirm Blobof's last statement.</p>
<p>I don't think you will have the flexibility in engineering to take the pre-reqs for med school. I'm not too sure what they are, but in engineering the courses are very specific to, well engineering applications. If med school is your goal, science may be a better choice.</p>
<p>for graduate school in general 3.4 is solid but for med i dont think so</p>