Hardest OOS Admit: UVA UCLA UCBerk

<p>^^I say that because the question was for OOS, not NorCal or SoCal. (Indeed, I’ve long believed that each campus gave tips to local kids – perhaps a familiarity with the local high schools – but that is totally off point.)</p>

<p>Since Cal already has lots more OOS students (as a %) than the other UCs, and the UCs want more OOS students (which requires a higher yield), LA is and will be marginally easier for OOS. Obviously, specialized programs like Engineering and theater are different.</p>

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<p>Excellent point, but I personally consider OOS and international separately. Thus, my earlier posts were meant to discuss OOS who lived in the other 49 states (or are permanent residents) who have access to wonderful instate publics at less than half the cost of a UC OOS. IMO, the build-it-they-will-come strategy won’t work for $50k per year. (Sure, UMich has lotsa OOS residents but the state’s demographics are miserable for higher ed and UMich offers excellent merit money. UVa offers full financial aid, even to OOS’ers. UNC is $10k cheaper, even at full price.)</p>

<p>Just my opinion.</p>