Harvard and others like it are not “drunk on exclusivity.” Their generous financial aid policies make a Harvard education accessible financially to many who otherwise would not be able to go.
I’m just curious: why are you all so focused on going to Harvard? It has many drawbacks, just like any school. You have hung in there for almost 3 months now on the WL.
It seems it would be healthier to move on to whatever school you have committed to already. And that prevents problems for those schools whose waitlists may have disappeared by now.
No idea on wl size. International kids did increase a bit from end of Mar announcement (half a %ish). Online access will help them out so yield in this group is high. Also, there is special approval to increase financial aid to URM kids due to the pandemic. Yes, they might still take more kids but given how things continue to boil/simmer since Minneapolis, chances are way better for URM kids. How’s that not reverse bigotry against the majority beats me, but they care a lot about face and ranking. More URM makes colleges look better and rank higher. How much longer the John Harvard statue will stand is anybody’s guess… Yale is having emergency meetings to seriously discuss erasing Elihu Yale’s legacy from history. Maybe Keynes and Darwin are next because they did what was legal at that time but not now, no matter their contributions to humanity. In 100 years, only communist dictatorships saw systematic renaming, destruction and reversal of legacies and history on a global scale. UN calls that cultural genocide in the case of Tibet. Did that make people less divided, smarter and happier? Political freedom at top universities has all but gone. Well, coming back to the wl, if you are not a URM, you must be privileged and guilty by birth, so maybe the chance is less than 99.9%… In the pursuit of justice, fairness and equality, the majority whose parents worked their butt off to give us resources to study our butt off must give way because of privileged genes. Hmmm…
If Harvard and its ilk would double or triple their enrollment, there would less resentment for affirmative action. The scarcity of access is the problem. Providing funding for low income students is nice and distributes access more equitably, but it does not expand access to the top flight certification and education from Harvard that is what everyone desires. Continuing with a hybrid education model combining in-person with online instruction would add significant capacity. This youtube video from a professor at NYU business schoo is very compelling andl has been forwarded around a lot in the past few weeks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8kwzSTITP0
Good Morning My Fellow Waitlisters. Let’s continue to use this forum for valuable information, positivity, and keeping each other posted of any news we hear rather than mudslinging and political activism. It can turn this space into something toxic fast.
Nothing yet in CA!
If they increase enrollment, they won’t be able to charge an arm and leg anymore. Middle class graduates of any race are either stuck with six figures of debt for life, or seeing their parents selling the family homes they grew up in to pay tuition. Why? Because the endowment must be larger than half of the GDP of countries on Plant Earth. $41 billion, which increased from $27 billion in 2010… And this is after paying tens of millions to the managers to made it happen. They say the endowment is a rainy-day fund… so would a global pandemic of a century be consider a rainy day? If they actually mean what they say, they would have acceptable everyone on the wl and make a list of online versus in-person admits. Every URM’s need will be satisfied. But tuition income may take a hit. But hey, isn’t there a rainy day fund that can buy a province in Canada? Well, adults lie. What can kids do?
^^^Facts…The Ivy League is a big part of the problem and they are in a unique position to lead a change. The rest will follow Harvard’s lead.
@limbokid…don’t know if your assessment will play true but it hasn’t at schools like Brown which has primarily taken full pay students off their waitlist.
Brown is not a leader in the way that Harvard is. With great power comes great responsibility.
Yes, Harvard if you are listening… accept all of us wl kids this year even if it increases your enrollment a couple of %s. Be the leader you have always professed to be. A once-in-a-century pandemic is truly where you shine with exceptional leadership! Dean Fitzsimmons has said in numerous occasions over two decades that there are at least three to five times kids qualified but not accepted due to resource constraints… Maybe this compulsory online-semester can help open up more opportunities to qualified kids like us? We understand most of the $41 billion is earmarked for special purposes but that does not stop you from borrowing against it or against millions of future tuition income. Maybe the Class of 2024 will be the first innovative online-offline Harvard that leads the Ivy League into a new era. In recent years, Yale expanded their campus and admissions and so did Cornell. Stanford is soon to expand in Palo Alto. Trailing others in off-line proliferation of education does not mean you cannot take leadership in a new online-offline hybrid universe that benefits all those qualified. Make it the first time in a very long time that you help us wl kids realize our dreams, instead of crushing them. The first step is the hardest but if anyone dares to take it, it has to be John Harvard. Hope and leadership for all are what our broken world needs right now!
@Mommabear1 I agree with you, let’s use this thread to keep each other updated and stay positive!
@waitlistedsenior - hoping there are calls for all of us tomorrow. Let’s all check-in throughout the day. Harvard if you are listening —please grace us with some of your good news!!! Please 
You should all post where you will be going if this is not your path. You’ll get lots of positivity. And perhaps some insight. My wife and fil are H grads. They enjoyed it but nothing in their lives came of it exclusively.
FWIW. I went to an excellent state flagship ug and help support all of them financially. Lol.
If you are all accomplished enough to be on the H waitlist. Go be like Tim Cook from good old Auburn and run Apple in a few years.
Good luck, I hope this turns out well for all of you.
Columbia recently created an extended waitlist going into August. Hopefully, harvard doesn’t do something similar.
Haven’t heard anything yet
Nothing yet - CA. Just wondering, will they email us as well if we miss their call? (That is, IF some calls are going out today)
I have a feeling the next round (if there even is one at this point) will be on Thursday or Friday. Since tomorrow is Harvard’s gap year deadline, this gives them time to assess their final yield and decide on whether or not to continue making offers off the waitlist.
nothing here - NY
Columbia’s waitlist situation seems awful. Glad I took myself off it months ago, I wouldn’t be able to handle waiting until August.
Columbia maybe the only honest Ivy. They do not know who is coming back and how many new kids will risk it. U of Cambridge already announced an online-only full 2020-21 academic year. Oxford is rumored to do the same. McGill has announced the same this fall with a few exceptions. In England and Canada, they do not care about lawsuits or insurance because healthcare is free. They are worried about the clear scientific evidence that in many cases, kids having recovered from COVID only to face 30% to 50% reduction in lung functions due to permanently scarred tissues. Even if the victims are not athletes, it would mean living the rest of their adult lives as patients of chronic asthma or smokers of 30 years. My buddy decided to gap Stanford to stay closer to home in MA. His family will not risk his lungs before a vaccine is out. Six Harvard graduate schools including Law and Public Health already announced online-only Fall 2020. Us incoming are the youngest but imagine on top of six-figure hospital bills per patient, the legal troubles that will tank a $41 billion endowment? Maybe COVID will make the admissions officers (all of them extremely political, @mommabear1 ) take all of us off the wl, and subsequently expand future admissions to deserving kids from all backgrounds, not just URM (yeah, my dream last night). Nothing will come this week, guys. We are just tiny pieces on the fringe of a giant puzzle. This sudden second wave Dr. Fauci said leading to 100,000 COVID cases per day over the summer will further delay wl decisions… #limboforeveratH #Hwlabandonedtillaugust