Hello. I am a parent who studied liberal arts, with a child interested in engineering, and I’m trying to learn about the engineering landscape both for my own curiosity and so that I might be able to offer advice. So hard-core engineers, please be kind/patient with me
My child is at Harvard, and is looking to major in Engineering (but not too late to switch to math, physics, Econ, etc). On CC, I see so many critical posts about H engineering, and I’d like to better understand the situation. I’m wondering if it’s truly as bad as people make it seem. I also wonder if people know how much H Engineering has been transforming, and if they are basing their opinions on outdated information? Maybe it does not matter even if H Eng is improving, if all the older people who do hiring don’t keep up to date on the current programs?
It is clear that Harvard is entirely overhauling engineering. In 2008, only 6-7% of students were engineers; now 20% are. About 5 years ago they added many ABET-accredited engineering specialties as majors; before that they mostly just had “Engineering Sciences” as a major (vs now EE, Material Sciences and Mechanical Eng., Environmental Science & Eng, Bioengineering, CS Eng, etc). For facilities, they are opening a brand new, $1 billion 535,000 sq ft engineering complex in 2020 that is hard to imagine won’t have absolutely phenomenal labs, equipment, etc. $1 billion is a lot of money!! In 2015, they hired a new dean of engineering away from UCSB who did his undergrad in Chem. Eng at Princeton, studied at Cambridge, received his PhD in chem. Eng at CalTech, taught at Purdue, etc before being a dean of engineering at UCSB. They have been on a huge engineering faculty hiring spree attracting great talent, and seem to have a disproportionate number of faculty elected to the National Academy of Sciences, etc. To me, all of this appears transformative, and while I don’t expect it to all of a sudden be considered better than MIT (!), it is hard to imagine that you can’t get a pretty great engineering education there if you are interested in one of the programs they offer.
As an added bonus, I would think there is something special about students who earn engineering degrees embedded in liberal arts universities. I personally think there is tremendous value to the mind-opening humanities courses, and am happy for his stellar general education courses and the fact that his friends study all different disciplines, and he’s not just spending time with fellow engineers. I personally like the well-rounded ness that comes with not being at a technical school. I do have a friend who does quite a bit of engineering hiring, and his perspective has always been that he favors Harvard engineers (and this even pre-dates the changes in this decade) for roles that ultimately will turn into opportunities to lead teams, create product concepts, etc as he feels they churn out big-picture thinkers, vs. very skilled technical people that might come out of other “better” programs, but who may not be able to step up into other roles. Yet of course I read on here that no one hires engineers from Harvard! So that worries me.
I’d love to hear that there are others besides my friend who appreciates the grounding in humanities that Harvard engineers get, in addition to their technical knowledge. Is there truth to that? I’m not looking to hear that Harvard is anywhere near #1 in engineering, clearly that is not the case. But should I discourage my child from pursuing engineering there? I see so much evidence that their program is completely on the rise, but there seems to be so much negative-feeling and writing against Harvard engineering, I’d appreciate some insight.
Thanks so much!