Harvard, Stanford, Cornell raised most money 2004

<p>"<a href="http://www.cae.org/content/pdf/FullFY2004.pdf"&gt;http://www.cae.org/content/pdf/FullFY2004.pdf&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/p>

<p>Here is a link to the full report. It's surprising the UPenn and Columbia raised less money than expected, since they're the two largest Ivies when you look at total student count (23,500+ students each I think). Anyways, they're both up there...Yale is comparable to UCLA....also surprising.</p>

<p>• Harvard University ($540.3 million)
• Stanford University ($524.2 million)
• Cornell University ($385.9 million)
• University of Pennsylvania ($332.8 million)
• University of Southern California ($322.1 million)
• Johns Hopkins University ($311.6 million)
• Columbia University ($290.6 million)
• Massachusetts Institute of Technology ($289.8 million)
• Yale University ($264.8 million)
• University of California, Los Angeles ($262.1 million)</p>

<p>...also, it's very surprising that UCLA beat UCB handily in fund-raising. UCLA could well be on its way to the #1 UC spot.</p>

<p>Golubb, from my research and observation, I dont think UCLA will beat Berkeley at least in the next 100 years. Here's the reasons.
1)It's the rank 1's that attract by far the most attention. 20 years ago, Berkeley was Rank 2 among all colleges in the nation. Even now, Berkeley has a LOT more rank 1 or 2's than LA.
Truthfully, 99% of the people dont research colleges every day. In the minds of the 300 million people here in the US, Berkeley is still more powerful.
ex. Chemical Engineering, Engineering (EECS), Computer Engineering, among others. I'd like you to name at least a few fields where UCLA ranks 1 or 2.
2)The extreme right tail end of the student body at Cal is far ahead of the extreme right end of the LA student body. In other words, there are over 2 times more students with ultra high SAT scores (1500-1600) and GPA's (4.5+) going to Berkeley than UCLA.</p>

<p>If the two schools are galaxies, Cal still outshines UCLA despite the fact that UCLA is more massive. It's the few quasars and hypergiants like the late Gleen Seaborg or Klark Kerr that make the news, not the numerous semi-famous people at UCLA.</p>

<p>Damn, the person above me is going all out on the 2nd person's comment.. Don't really think the 2nd person was trying to make such a big point, im sure he was saying it casually... no need to whip out little stats.. haha</p>

<p>UCLA beat Berkeley by a LONG way in terms of funds raised. I think it is equally respected at this point of time. Berkeley, in fact, has developed a bit of a reputation for under funded facilities and over-crowded classes.</p>

<p>Berkeley and UCLA are equally respected, but only for most undergrads.
Berkeley undergrad engineering >> UCLA undergrad engineering
Grad School at Cal > Grad School at UCLA </p>

<p>I only posted the 3rd message because some UCLA students just drive me insane with their arrogance. UCLA is a great school, but you dont have to brag about in every single topic.</p>

<p>I'm really not sure if it's ok to generalize berkeley as superior in all of those grad schools. For example, the business schoool at UCLA (i know for a fact) is quickly catching up to the level of Berkeley's, and within the next 2-3 years will have developed equal standing.</p>

<p>It's also a fact that the more people like Golubb brag about their school, the more it falls. The newest US News rankings placed three public schools between Berkeley and UCLA (Ann Arbor, UNC-CH and UVa). LA is below rank 30, as of now. Four years ago, UCLA was right behind Cal, and last year, there were two public schools between UCLA and Berkeley. And ironically, UCLA students (at least on these boards) are far more arrogant about their school than UNC, UVa, Berkeley, or Ann Arbor students are.</p>

<p>Note that I'm not saying Cal is the best. Ann Arbor is growing the fastest, and Cal actually fell one rank this year to number 22. It is probable that Ann Arbor will be equal to Berkeley in the next 4 years.</p>

<p>Here's the next 10:</p>

<p>Duke
UT Austin
Indiana University
University of Minnesota
NYU
UCSF
University of Michigan
OSU
University of Washington
UNC CH</p>

<p>Does that mean that UMich is "worse" than Indiana and University of Minnesota?
No.</p>

<p>UC Rankings:</p>

<p>UCLA: $262,148,586
UCB: $178,005,169
UCSD: $100,938,143
UCD: $82,343,776
UCSB: $73,966,187
UCI: $51,807,867
UCR: $17,167,612
UCSC: $14,917,980</p>

<p>And the strange thing is, why is UCLA going down every year?</p>

<p>UCLA has a med school and they attract many donations. Take that out and see what you have.</p>

<p>It also surprising that UCLA and UT-Austin beat University-of-michingan-ann-arbor ! </p>

<p>Fund-raising often reflects the earning-potential of the student body. UCLA has the medical school, but so does UMAA. UT-Austin is a surprise though.</p>

<p>I'm surprised the University of Southern California is all the way up there, seems staggering that it is ahead of far more prestigious institutions.</p>

<p>UCLA was on a fundraising campaign, so its funds raised this year are higher. also true about the medical school, ucla gets many funds for that. ultimately, it is generally the science-oriented schools (especially grad sciences) that receive more funding. that's partially why cornell and JHU crack the a list that includes the more traditional harvard, stanford, penn, columbia, mit. thats partially also why berkeley, ucla, and ucsd are the only UCs that broke the $100,00,000 mark and how UCSF, with only med programs and nothing else, cracks the top 20. im not surprised USC is up there, their tight and rich alumni network is good at donating back, although i wonder if USC was on a special fundraising campaign or if they annually make the list.</p>

<p>why do they raise money? where is the money coming from?</p>

<p>From U Of Michigan Report
<a href="http://www.techtransfer.umich.edu/msc/msc.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.techtransfer.umich.edu/msc/msc.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>In this slide, I am providing you with two years' worth of data, because I want you to see three aspects of our research funding - the considerable amount of our funding, the academic company in which we find ourselves, and the level of competition from year to year for these dollars. </p>

<p>If you compare research expenditures for 2000 and 2001, you will see the same universities in the top five of the rankings, but a dramatic shift occurs in the funding for the University of Wisconsin and UCLA. The funding for all of the top universities increased, but UCLA managed to make an impressive gain within one year, increasing its research funding by almost 30%.</p>

<p>"why do they raise money? where is the money coming from"</p>

<p>They raise money to promote research. The money comes from student donations....typically larger donations imply more earning potential for those universities students.</p>

<p>Here's a list from another thread about who is collecting from the greatest number of its alums:</p>

<p>Alumni Giving Rate </p>

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<p>In fairness to those universities with fewer alumni, here are the top ten schools (according to US News) in average alumni giving rate:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Princeton (61%)</p></li>
<li><p>Notre Dame (48%)</p></li>
<li><p>Harvard (48%)</p></li>
<li><p>Darthmouth (47%)</p></li>
<li><p>Duke (46%)</p></li>
<li><p>Yale (45%)</p></li>
<li><p>Lehigh (40%)</p></li>
<li><p>UPenn (39%)</p></li>
<li><p>Brown (38%)</p></li>
<li><p>WashU STL (37%)</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Previously reported here:
Endowment per student </p>

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<p>Dated, but probably still true to form. </p>

<p>Endowment (in billions of $) and Endowment Per Student (in millions of $) at Leading Private Research Universities that Compete with Cornell for Undergraduate Students on June 30, 2000 and Annual Payout Per Student Assuming a 4% Payout Rule (in dollars). </p>

<ol>
<li>Princeton $8.4 $1.309 $52, 360 </li>
<li>Harvard $18.8 $1.051 $42,040 </li>
<li>Yale $10.1 $ .927 $37,080 </li>
<li>Rice $3.4 $ .800 $32,000 </li>
<li>MIT $6.5 $ .666 $26,640 </li>
<li>Stanford $8.6 $ .658 $26,320 </li>
<li>Emory $5.0 $ .486 $19.440 </li>
<li>Dartmouth $2.5 $ .477 $19,080 </li>
<li>Wash. U. $4.2 $ .411 $16,440 </li>
<li>Chicago $3.8 $ .342 $13,680 </li>
<li>Vandblt. $2.3 $ .240 $ 9,600 </li>
<li>Duke $2.6 $ .239 $ 9,560 </li>
<li>Northw. $3.4 $ .224 $ 8,960 </li>
<li>Columbia $4.3 $ .219 $ 8,760 </li>
<li>Brown $1.4 $ .188 $ 7,520 </li>
<li>Cornell $3.4 $ .181 $ 7,240 </li>
<li>Rochester $1.3 $ .176 $ 7,040 </li>
<li>Penn. $3.2 $ .162 $ 6,480 </li>
<li>John Hop. $1.8 $ .159 $ 6,</li>
</ol>