<p>I love how they publish this AFTER the deadline.</p>
<p>Who exactly applies to harvard for transfer?</p>
<p>were some of these people harvard-wannabes (not trying to be derogatory) who didn't get into the freshman class, who get a 2nd chance?</p>
<p>^ How about those overachievers who turned down Harvard in the first place to attend Deep Springs?</p>
<p>Come on guys. </p>
<p>Be realistic. </p>
<p>In this day and age, Harvard has to make budget cuts to expand its services as efficiently as possible, or risk losing another wine and cheese Professor-Gala. Think hard. If you had a 25 billion dollar endowment, how on earth would you manage to expand the transfer program? Hard isn't it? Plus, we transfer students are merely tools to increase the diversity of Harvard. Maybe we just weren't worthy enough this year.</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
<p>So it looks like they're going to be accepting the same amount of people as Yale does from now on.</p>
<p>i think the problem, which other ppl have already hinted at, is that they see transfers as just a group of students to occupy the unfilled beds, not as a group of students who should have a place within the college. they give us the left overs, instead of a place at the table.</p>
<p>about deep springs:</p>
<p>I really would love to know ppl's thoughts on that.</p>
<p>What about it?</p>
<p>The only good things about Harvard are the CID (Center for International Development) which isn't even that important since Sachs left and Daniel Gilbert, since without him we wouldn't have had Stumbling on Happiness.</p>
<p>And as we know from read Stumbling on Happiness, its improbable that the new policy will have a net effect of making people much less happy for any extended period of time.</p>
<p>Who cares? Overrated school in a crappy, crappy neighborhood. I've heard of people getting carjacked right in front of the school.</p>
<p>I'm not going to go to a school JUST because it's respected. If's it's somewhere I would never want to live, or a school with a crappy social life, I don't care how respected it is, I'd never want to go.</p>
<p>What's sad is that all these kids bust their asses to get into Harvard and then a lot of them don't even like it when they're there.</p>
<p>To some people...social lives aren't everything. Some people would choose changing the world over their social lives (how many presidents graduated from Harvard...5? 6? 7?). Hell I would.</p>
<p>Also, the thieves can carjack me ALL they want if it means access to Harvard's immense social network. In fact, they can take everything on me. The things I own if I were to attend college would be nothing to compared to my future opportunities from attending Harvard. I know I may be exaggerating, but Harvard's one of the few examples that allow this.</p>
<p>Walnut, changing the world? You've got to be kidding. Just because you go to an Ivy League school doesn't mean you're going to turn into Superman.</p>
<p>You're an idiot if you're willing to risk your life (carjacking) to go to a school. Have you ever been in a robbery or a crime? Sounds to me like you have not. More than likely you'd wet your pants.</p>
<p>I've met plenty of successful and financially well-off people who never went to an Ivy, so I'll take my chances at a state school in a warmer climate and have a lot of friends while I'm there. Hahahaha.</p>
<p>Opportunities are what you make out of them. You can make plenty of opportunities for yourself that guarantee your financial prosperity WITHOUT going to an Ivy. If you have to use Harvard as a crutch instead, you have a lot to learn.</p>
<p>Hi-power is a genius!! :) (not said sarcastically)</p>
<p>I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. Crime, drugs, and gang life is a part of this city and a part of life. Back in the day, students at my high school, and surrounding high school all died from pre-existing conflicts, rather than random petty thefts. Have you ever known a thief? Sound to me you have not.</p>
<p>Crutch? I'm hoping to be a statesman one day, as such I look for efficient paths to become one. Of course it's possible to be successful without an Ivy, it's just more efficient coming out of an Ivy. Ivy schools offer students with access to "old money", as well as parents with many political connections. Of course, I can meet these people through my friends already at Harvard, or any of the other Ivy's, it's just the fact that this way is a roundabout method. Again, i'm not saying that Ivy schools are a must for success, it's just easier coming from an Ivy.</p>
<p>Oh I missed a point, I bring up the point of Ivy league "old money" for the sake of campaign contributions, and how easier things can be during a campaign if one were to personally know wealthy individuals from college.</p>
<p>Yeah, Mr. Bush Jr. also graduated from Harvard. He changed the world, indeed. Poor world.</p>
<p>hey guys,</p>
<p>has anyone heard from harvard about interviews?</p>
<p>walnut, I grew up by an inner-city area. After high school my job took me into several inner city areas. At one point I thought I was going to have to use my .357
Magnum to protect myself. Glad I didn't have to, since the sharp crack of the cartridge really hurts my ears, which is why I since switched over to a big bore round.
I have friends and family in LA so I have experience with that city as well.</p>
<p>Hell, one guy I know, a former fishing buddy of mine, is in prison for beating a guy to death in self-defense and then dumping the body instead of taking him to the hospital. If he did the latter he would be scot free in the incident. So don't make assumptions about me not knowing a thief. I've known thieves, drug dealers, a guy who killed before, etc. Such an assumption just makes you look foolish, which really hurts your case since you seem to be defending Ivies.</p>
<p>Being a statesman doesn't have much prestige to me. Today's statesmen just piggyback off of their contributors and make borderline unethical decisions behind
closed doors with companies looking to use the government to make a quick buck, regardless of who it might harm. If you became a statesman to make a difference
for a REASON, like if your parents were murdered in front of you and you couldn't prevent it due to the law (happened to Suzanna Hupp), then I'd have some respect
for you. But if you are going to college just to be some damn politician, no way. You're no different than the rest of them in Washington trying to get their own slice
of the American pie. You're not doing it to make a difference. If you were, you would be out there making a difference RIGHT NOW, not worrying about what
school you are going to go to or what friends you can make in order to advance your political career.</p>
<p>All the decent politicians never had aspirations to become politicians; they had normal lives first, THEN decided to make a difference when the opportunity presented
itself. Yet it seems like a lot of the worthless politicians, both Republican and Democrat, went to Ivies and were expected at a young age to enter politics, purely for ambitious reasons. Your priorities are way out of whack.</p>
<p>I'm not really bashing Ivy League schools, but I don't think they are heads and shoulders above every other school out there. If you really are capable, you can take
control of your life and become successful WITHOUT ever stepping on campus at an Ivy. It's all about you, not the school. The school just puts you on track.</p>
<p>Now if you said you were going to go someplace like MIT to make a difference, I'd buy that. But Harvard? Harvard is filled with people wanting to make money. Nothing wrong with that but if you're capable, you don't need the Ivy degree. You can do just as well with a degree from UCLA, Arizona State, Texas A&M, etc.</p>
<p>But walnut, just by your second paragraph it's obvious to me you're not acting capable at all. Only reason you want to go to an Ivy it seems like is so you can make
Old Money connections to piggyback on. You don't even want to create anything, just rub elbows with people whom you can leech off of. That's pathetic in my
book, especially since you don't sound like a total idiot.</p>
<p>How about you start a company or go into a professional occupation, then give back to your community to make a difference, and THEN go into public service? The
route you are taking you're just going to turn into a well-dressed rat.</p>
<p>Hi-Power, to tell you the truth, I never meant for you to go on a flaming rampage. </p>
<p>In fact, I had NO intentions of making assumptions towards you AT ALL. I was trying to point out the rudeness in your previous post by using your same wording, in hopes that you could notice how arrogant your writing style comes off. </p>
<p>Your version:
"Have you ever been in a robbery or a crime? Sounds to me like you have not. More than likely you'd wet your pants."</p>
<p>to </p>
<p>My "signal" to you, in hopes you would notice:
"Have you ever known a thief? Sounds to me you have not."</p>
<p>My intentions were to speak only about the benefits, and opportunities provided by Harvard. The second statement I still don't understand what the problem is. Statesman have always been financially dependent on contributors. Ghandi was dependent...MLK.......I just don't understand why being financially independent is a prerequisite to success.</p>
<p>Neverthless, Hi-Power, please excercise restraint and patience before you blast me in a post. You have no information on my past achievements, my current endeavors, and any of my goals in life. There's hardly any information for you to extrapolate my posts into me becoming a "well-dressed rat", and or someone that is "not capable at all."</p>
<p>I've spent nearly a third of my life in public service now, to mediate conflicts between gangs, and trying to help students come back to school after dropping out. I've also been able to raise ten's of thousands of dollars for past national disastors such as 9/11 and New Orleans, and foreign disastors such as the Indian Ocean Tsunami.</p>
<p>As I am older now, I find myself looking for more efficient ways to raise the standard and quality of life for those in need. I'm sure you know about the misappropriated funds of 9/11, Indian Tsunami, and New Orlean relief funds. I needed another way, not just some short lived donation. I need to find a way to entrench myself into it. </p>
<p>How? Money. I need money as a tool to continue my endeavors, which is being a statesman, or being in some kind of NGO.</p>
<p>Since it seems you have a bias against money, let me try to persuade you otherwise. Of course money by itself cannot do anything, but in tandem with alot of care and the right allocation, it can create significant changes for humanity. Money has the power to corrupt, and it also has this miraculous phenomena of creating peace. The inherent benefits of Industrialization and Westernization is why I seek money. Money is a key ingredient to spurning 3rd world countries, and or impoverished locales located domestically in the US. As a statesman, I would look to invest the money in various programs, to stimulate jobs growth. </p>
<p>On a grander scale, the creation of a middle class, the economic gains from specialization via globalism, etc. is the main reason why large countries hate conflicts. A war with China would send both economies into a massive depression. </p>
<p>Who has been spending massively into China? We are. Look at Intel, Cisco, AMD. Intel alone is set to funnel one billion dollars into Vietnam. Dollars? They're not only investing dollars, they're creating jobs, infrastructure, health care, jobs...they're promoting education in less developed countries. China has lifted people out of poverty faster than the world has ever seen. Why? Free-market reforms from statesman in China and US. </p>
<p>Need more evidence of the importance of money? America is the top contributor to the United Nations. The UN provides livelihoods to hundreds of thousands of people. When I visited UNHCR, they explained that they are the sole source of sustenence for ten's of thousands of refugees due to African conflicts. They fell short of contributions that year (this was 2004). The money that was allocated to them could not feed everyone, and was only enough to supply the refugees up to the 3rd or 4th grade. Education is a necessary means to build their lives back together after they were exiled from their original country...What are the kids to do with such a low level of education? Well, lets just say it looks bleak. Everyone from the large charitable organization that I met overseas always had problems the same problems with money. Individuals I spoke to from the Red Crescent and UNHCR said that there are times they become so short of funds at times that they have to cut back on security during dangerous missions.</p>
<p>All the more reason to gain access to social networks with higher net worths. Someday, it could save lives. </p>
<p>My years of endless fundraisers and donation seeking seemed to be inefficient. I needed a way to get large sums of money. </p>
<p>The average age of a billionaire is pretty old, and I don't have enough time in my life to do so! I need it even faster so I can spend a large amount of time distributing and injecting that money efficiently. How can I gain access this much money? Either from connections, or working in the government. Heck, i'd love to be the head project leader that is leading Intel into Vietnam with over a billion dollars. Now that's industrialization at work. </p>
<p>For your comment about politicians: I never understood this odd bias about "corrupted" politicians only wanting to get their own slice. Every politician will be wants more money and more power because they have an agenda to accomplish. They believe in a principle, they believe in serving a cause. This "cause", whatever it may be, is NOT CHEAP. Ballots cannot be won without expensive media broadcasts. You mock "old money" connections, but you fail to realize that every election in America is heavily influenced by the upper echelon's of society. By the conglomerate corporations, by the power families such as the Bush or Kennedy family, etc. Carol Liu, D-44 Assembly woman was a campaign I closely watched. Her competitors were more eloquent, more knowledgeable, but Liu won. Why? Huge contributions = massive marketing funds.</p>
<p>In response to your feelings towards our current politicians in the context of them being selfish, corrupt, and unethical:
If you analyze closely, decisions harm individuals nearly always. Those who are harmed by the decision will call the politician corrupt, and those who aren't will be contributing to their campaign. A tax cut could put more money in the middle class, yet it could cause certain individuals to lose their jobs, and subsequently their lives will fall out of order. A ballot measure to increase school spending may be taking away from social services, causing more delinquent students. It's not easy when you look at the decisions are at hand. </p>
<p>Is it ethical to support these power individuals? Is it OK to avoid the extremely powerful meat and agricultural lobbyists (old money)? These folk are hard working Americans, so what do do? Should we ignore their contributions, or should we help them keep their jobs? Contributions is a form a representation, and protection for the minority. Now of course, one would argue, but the farmers are in the minority, and they shouldn't get special help. Someone else would then start the counter attack with the class equality principles. </p>
<p>My point: politicians aren't as bad as you think. Aside from the BLATANTLY corrupt, the ones who you dislike are simply the ones who do not match your principles. Now i'm not condoning their poor choices or acts, i'm trying to say that they're not all bad, and they are the complete opposite of worthless. That I guarantee.</p>
<p>So there you go, a quick summary as to why I favor the social network of Harvard. When I say quick summary, it isn't sarcasm either...I have thought endlessly for a solution that truly contribute.</p>
<p>Sorry for the typos! I typed this without much structure. </p>
<p>I wanted to add that i'm content with the amount of money I have right now, but I'd need over a billion dollars to finish everything I want to do before I hit the coffin. Hopefully I can work that money while working in the UN or Red Crescent...............i'm the workaholic type that will never retire :D</p>
<p>transfers do not usually get interviewed.</p>