Has anyone else given up?

<p>So, deferred people...are you all giving up too? I'm positive I'm not going to get into Yale, and therefore Harvard, Princeton, and Stanford as well...Where are you going to end up?</p>

<p>If you got deferred you can't be too bad.</p>

<p>I really don't think you should be so negative. Deferment is not the same as rejection, and it certainly isn't tantamount to being rejected from other top-notch shools. Just wait and be hopeful: remember that not every person matriculates. Keep your eye on the prize and maybe you'll have a nice surprise.</p>

<p>Hooray for unintentional rhyming!</p>

<p>I got rejected from Stanford. It made me think more about my apps and I tryed to emphasise my strong points more, and I think I did a poor job on my Stanford app. I haven't given up on top schools, because I worked to improve my chances, and lets face it: Admissions are extremely unpredictable.</p>

<p>From what I've seen, those who are deferred from a top school like Harvard or Yale generally end up at some pretty decent schools that include Columbia, U Penn, Cornell, U Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, etc. There was a thread about this two years ago where people posted where they got in after deferred/rejected...I'll try to dig it up if I can. Those who are rejected though, generally don't even get into the schools I listed above.</p>

<p>If I may make myself feel a little better about my other schools, Stanford defers only a small number of applications, so the same may not go for it.</p>

<p>Sometimes it's totally unpredictable though.</p>

<p>Does anyone know how much essays count toward getting into Yale? Can they make up for a lack of...say...amazingness?</p>

<p>hm well my friend got deferred (and eventually rejected) from yale but got into Harvard RD....so it's all unpredictable. i have no idea how it works</p>

<p>Don't give up! Just because Yale deferred you doesn't mean other great schools don't want you. Maybe you have something Harvard is looking for, but not Yale?
And like what the other person said, if you were deferred, you can't be THAT bad.</p>

<p>as a fellow deferee, although yale is still my dream school, i too have just about given up on it. I think alot of it has to do with keeping myself emotionally intact for march, as i really dont want to get my hopes up, because rejection is just too likely. However i think my Princeton and Brown apps came out better than my Yale app, just because i had that much more tme to work on them and i learned form some little mistakesi made on Yale. So im trying to stay posative, but realistic at the same time. Good luck to everyone!</p>

<p>I withdrew back in November, so yeah, I guess I gave up too? Good luck to those of you who hung in there.</p>

<p>CAC119, you have almost exactly the same situation as me, except Yale instead of stanford (and a deferral instead of a rejection :()</p>

<p>"From what I've seen, those who are deferred from a top school like Harvard or Yale generally end up at some pretty decent schools that include Columbia, U Penn, Cornell, U Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, etc. There was a thread about this two years ago where people posted where they got in after deferred/rejected...I'll try to dig it up if I can. Those who are rejected though, generally don't even get into the schools I listed above."</p>

<p>Yeah, but the problem is I did not apply to any of those schools, so I will not "end up somewhere great." I made a big mistake--I applied to HYPS and then a bunch of match schools that I would not consider "great." Being arrogant, I thought in the beginning of the year that one of HYPS would accept me but now I've realized that it's very likely I won't be accepted at any of them. And that means I am doomed to go to one of my 6 match/safeties. I know that people say 'love your safety,' and I do love these safeties as far as safeties go...but obviously I could never be happy at them considering they are not even among my first four choices. In retrospect I should have applied to Brown and Columbia, because those are great schools and I would be happy at them (since I'm not going to HYPS). I am very sad knowing that I will end up at XX School (pretty sure I am going to a certain university now) because their RD acceptance rate (around 20%) is over 3 times that of Yale (5.8%)--and never mind HPS.</p>

<p>Columbia College had a 7% RD rate last year. I would hardly consider that significantly "easier" to get into than Yale...</p>

<p>Yeah, I got deferred but I'm still hopeful. I really love Duke and I feel pretty good that I'll get in there.</p>

<p>Ok, what are your opinions on this:
Say, in an entirely hypothetical situation, I got deferred from Yale, but got accepted to a school that is just as prestigious. Would it come off as rude/snobbish to send Yale a letter saying that while <em>this school</em> accepted me, Yale is still my top choice? </p>

<p>Please remember - hypothetical.</p>

<p>well mentally I've given up...I'm just gonna go to PC on a big scholarship and have an awesome four years =) but I haven't officially withdrawn my application yet...I figure I may as well wait it out...</p>

<p>I mean...its definetly not Yale quality, but a its good school that will get me a good job nonetheless and I'd rather be there than anywhere else, so I figure I might as well go. I guess the fact that ill be happy there is more important than anything. But I may as well leave my application in, after all...what if I do get into yale?!?!</p>

<p>"Being arrogant, I thought in the beginning of the year that one of HYPS would accept me but now I've realized that it's very likely I won't be accepted at any of them."</p>

<p>Same here. Except I don't have safeties or even matches. So count yourself lucky :)</p>

<p>Wow. The arrogance is palpable here.</p>

<p>Luckily, for those of us in Michigan, we have a great school called The University of Michigan, which is considered a "public ivy".</p>

<p>If you go to the discussion home page on cc, and then click down on the botom where it says more... and go to page 3 or 4, I cant remember which, you will see a thread called Graduating Seniors post where you were accepted. You will see students who post their SAT scores and grades and all the schools they applied to and where they were accepted, rejected ect. You will see many students who were deferred from Yale EA but got into Harvard, Princeton and other top schools regular decision. You will see there is no rhyme or reaason to some of them. There are students who got accepted at Harvard but rejected to Columbia. Accepted to Yale, but rejected to University of Pennsylvania. There is often no rhyme or reason why one schools says yes but not another. I know of people who were rejected from Brown regular decision but accepted to Yale. I know of students who appied ED to Dartmouth and were deferred and rejected but accepted to Harvard and Yale. You never know.
A lot of applicants who apply early to Yale are legacies, development legacies and recruited athletes who are encouraged to apply early. Many of those accepted early were in these categories. They took up a large number of spaces for those accepted early The encouraging thing is that the applicants in these categories that were going to be accetped were accepted early and they are no longer in the regular decision pool. Even though there will be over 20,000 applicants in the regular decision pool, those with the advantages I mentioned who were going to be taken will mostly be out of the pool. At least half of the 20,000 applicants might not be that qualified and threw in an application because they use the common application. I believe that for schools like Yale, students who are not in one of the categories mentioned above have a better chance in the regular decision round if they are compelling candidates.</p>