Help give me some insight on my college choices...

<p>I’d decide between Rochester and Lehigh.</p>

<p>John, it may be 50 miles in total distance, but 70 in the most efficent driving route. I’ve made that drive.</p>

<p>fallen, I have come across the correct stats to use for the student part of the endowment per student ratio:</p>

<p>[2009</a> Fall Official Enrollment](<a href=“Office of the University Registrar |”>Office of the University Registrar |)</p>

<p>2009 Fall Official Tulane Enrollment:</p>

<p>Full-time students = 9,478
Part-time students = 2,433
total Students = 11,911</p>

<p>now take 1/3 of the part-time students:</p>

<p>2,433/3 = 811</p>

<p>and add this 811 figure to the 9,478 full time students to arrive at:</p>

<p>10,289 full time equivalent students </p>

<p>which is EXACTLY the figure that Tulane refers to as “2009 Fall FTE: 10289”</p>

<p>Lehigh’s figure, from its common data set would be: FTE students = 6,191</p>

<p>As an entering student to Tulane I would be a bit concerned with this, but it might not mean much to other people:</p>

<p>24% of Undergraduates are part-time (1,758 of 7,210)
53% of Undergraduates are living off campus (3856 of 7,210)
16% of Undergraduates are over the age of 25 (1,160 of 7,210)</p>

<p>[2009</a> Profile: Tulane University](<a href=“Office of the University Registrar |”>Office of the University Registrar |)</p>

<p>this might not mean much to many people, but to others like myself, this is significant…</p>

<p>and after further review, it seems that the above is the result of a Continuing Studies program at Tulane with 1,681 undergraduate students:</p>

<p><a href=“Office of the University Registrar |”>Office of the University Registrar |;

<p>again, for me, at least, not my cup of tea…</p>

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<p>It says that they have a school of continuing studies whereby they reach out to people who are non-traditional students, may be working, etc. So? That’s part of being a leader in a community. Plenty of schools have Continuing Studies divisions, especially those located in cities where they can accommodate working professionals or adults seeking to continue their education. How would that affect a “traditional” 18-21 yo Tulane undergrad in the least? Tulane offers a campus experience that’s like any number of college campuses.</p>

<p>pizza, huh?</p>

<p>it would affect it very negatively…but that is just me…</p>

<p>the OP could very well not mind that 24% of the undergraduate students are in the continuing education part of Tulane…does great things for the intellectual education of an 18 year young freshman attending classes with a bunch of 35 year old working moms and dads eh?</p>

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<p>USC - does this bother you at all? I am sure not, since I know you are smart enough to understand evening school and executive MBA programs have little impact on the “regular” students. Very few of these students are in the daytime classes of the traditional student. Not that it would be a bad thing, but since most of them work, they just are not there during the day classes. Tulane is actually the largest employer in New Orleans, and is completely involved in providing the community with many resources, including the chance to get a higher education while working and living in New Orleans. Seems pretty admirable to me. Anyway, out of the hundreds of threads on the Tulane section of CC over the last 14 months or so, I have never heard a single comment, much less complaint, about part time students or those in the School of Continuing Studies.</p>

<p>I will point out, since this might be important to you, that freshmen and sophomores are required to live on campus, and quite a few upperclassmen do as well. In fact, about 3350 of the 5450 students in Newcomb-Tulane College live on campus, or almost 62% of the Tulane “regular” students live on campus.</p>

<p>fallen, that does make the situation a little better, I guess…</p>

<p>thanks for the info…</p>

<p>Years ago, Univ. of Chicago Business School had a significant night school part time program and it did not detract from the quality of the full time day time program…I don’t know if they still offer the program today.</p>

<p>These statitistics do give me something to think about, but when I visited I only saw young kids on campus and had no clue that there were a large percentge of nontradional students. I don’t know really what to think about it.</p>

<p>USC, if the part time undergraduates are night schoolers, then it wouldn’t be any different than if they were part time graduate students, which is very common at these universities…</p>

<p>your favorite school in the world, in fact has 16% part time students overall, although only 7% of undergraduates are part-time:</p>

<p>[USC</a> Institutional Assessment and Compliance](<a href=“Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics - Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics | University of South Carolina”>Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics - Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics | University of South Carolina)</p>

<p>I am willing to place a small wager that if I researched Duke, Wash U in St. Louis, Vandy, Chicago and many others I would find a situation similar to Tulane’s. It just isn’t a factor at all.</p>

<p>fallen, no, not with part time undergraduate students…</p>

<p>it is what it is…</p>

<p>however, the effect of part time night time undergraduates on a young 18 year old freshman is no different than part time graduate students, since you stated that they mostly atttend at night and do not share classes with the entering freshmen.</p>

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<p>Percent Part-Time Undergraduates</p>

<p>Tulane - 24%
Vanderbilt - 1%
Lehigh - 1%
Rochester - 5%
USC - 7%
Columbia - 15%</p>

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<p>Yes, many, many working professionals in Chicago go to the night school programs at either Northwestern (Kellogg) or at U of Chicago (Booth). I did it myself. It has no impact on the full time day programs at either school.</p>

<p>I work for a major bank in New York and if you’re thinking of working in the Northeast Lehigh over Tulane is a no brainer. Also, the Lehigh alumni connections in the business world in the Northeast are significant.</p>

<p>“fallenchemist it is common knowledge that Math SAT’s are better indicators of successful business majors than Critial Reading SAT scores. That is why the Math SAT scores were compared.
but, again, you knew that, didn’t you?”</p>

<p>Can’t resist getting into this a bit. Math SATs may be a good indicator of successful business majors, but the CR SAT is the best indicator of innate intelligence, with vocabulary score being the most accurate predictor of conventional IQ score. In addition it is well known that the math SAT responds best to coaching and practice while CR does not. It is very difficult, even with intensive coaching, to raise the CR SAT score, because it is a more accurate measure of intelligence. All things considered if I were an admissions officer I would first look at the CR SAT score.</p>

<p>JohnAdams12 wrote:

Whew! I didn’t ever hear that in MBA school! That was clearly a quick rationalization to what looks on its face like your prior VERY selective and deliberate ommission of the much higher SAT CR scores of Tulane students in comparison to Lehigh students. You didn’t just omit, you omiitted with purpose. In fact, the combined 25/75 ave SAT score for CR + Math favors Tulane by about 30 points. </p>

<p>That sort of disingenousness is below your normally reasoned and fair posts, JohnAdams12.</p>

<p>Syracuse !! Whitman is a great school</p>