Help me (depressing situation)

<p>Hi everyone,</p>

<p>I go to school in Chicago, graduate this winter, want to find a job in Hawaii bc I hate Chicago. </p>

<p>Unfortunately, the job market in Hawaii is not very good, especially for my degree (operations management--which means I'd probably have to find a job in manufacturing or scm, fields that are virtually non existent in Hawaii). </p>

<p>However, if I take TWO more classes, I can go from a minor to a major in information systems. I don't expect you to know much about the Hawaii job market, but any feedback you could give me on these two degrees as a pair in terms of opportunities would be great. Are the opportunities heightened much, or does it not really matter? </p>

<p>If you don't think a degree in IS to go with OM would be the best choice for getting a job in a market with fewer openings, what would? I'm all ears. I need whatever can give me enough of a competitive skill set to live here. </p>

<p>Thanks everyone. -haole</p>

<p>no offense but i don’t think you are being realistic here
Hawaii!?
you will find IS work anywhere but i don’t know if IS work will support you everywhere</p>

<p>you have to understand that Hawaii is not simply a resort destination, its filled with regular people who work regular jobs. if I can find a job that pays even 35k a year, I could easily get a place with a roommate. it wouldn’t be anything amazing, but it would be enough for me. i just need to get a dam job out here somehow.</p>

<p>just so everyone knows, I’m not some kid whose graduating and just thinking, “I think I’ll go to hawaii now.” Other than college I spent my entire life in hawaii, and my family still lives here.</p>

<p>You should probably determine the type of job that is attainable in Hawaii, and then gear your efforts based on that. It’s likely that you will need to do a lot of leg work and networking in order to find a decent job.</p>

<p>In regards to the IS major, would you still be able to graduate in December? If so, then I would definitely recommend doing that.</p>

<p>thats the thing vector, I wouldn’t be able to graduate until may 09, but I’d only be a part time student for that last semester (2 classes). I figure during that time I could work some kind of internship to help beef up my resume.</p>

<p>it’d cost me 3600 bucks to get a major in IS. compared to what my tuition’s been for the last four years, that doesn’t seem like a deal breaker.</p>

<p>Take those 2 classes and while you have the free time, why not do some networking? Just sounds like the best thing to do while you do have the free time, ya know.
An internship doesn’t sound too bad either.</p>

<p>ya i think you hit the nail on the head with the part time student/internship idea. you do indeed have a tough situation on your hands, but whatever the result is, it won’t be life altering in the long run. the only other thing i could think of is if you could get those two classes in this next semester..im not sure if your school would allow it or what your time management situation is, but i have known people to succeed while taking 20+ credits/semester. And also, keep in mind that many entry level business jobs require a degree in business administration, not a specific degree (ie-operations management), so if you are willing to be flexible in your career choice that is definitely something to look at.</p>

<p>Two more classes in IS is not going to help you that much in job opportunities. Usually those type of jobs are offered based on what the person knows which is determined by interview. You can write to the companies on your list and let them know how close you are to a major in that field, and have your resume showcase the courses you have taken in the field. For instance, my H looks for graduates with strong math skills and experience. So an English major who has take a heavy duty Prob &Stats course, and Analysis, can add that to his resume or letter to let those who are interested in that feature be aware of this. That he has some computer courses beyond the very basic is often highlighted too.</p>

<p>Several years ago, our cousin went back to school, to a comm college to get a computer programming certificate. He already had a general business BS and was not getting too far in getting jobs. When he took a few courses at the comm college for computer programming, he found that it did not take much more for him to get that certificate which really gave his resume a nice boost for just a few bucks (relatively speaking). That is something you can also do as you work in Hawaii at some other job just to get back to the locale and into the swing of things there.</p>

<p>thanks guys, a lot of good feedback, really appreciate it. </p>

<p>to the poster above me, the only reason I’d take those two classes is because that way I’d have enough credits for a major in IS to go with my major in OM</p>

<p>You all seem to agree that I should focus primarily on getting work experience, and that’s really my goal next semester, to find SOME kind of internship or part time job. </p>

<p>I know its not gonna be easy to find a job, but fortunately I got my family in Hawaii so I can stay with them until I get situated. Even if what I end up with is nothing great, its at least a starting point. That’s all I really want right now.</p>

<p>The cost of staying in Chicago to get the IS courses is going to be the issue more than the cost of tuition for the courses. If you can afford it and want to do so, go for it. Bear in mind that new graduates even in Chicago are not going to get huge salaries and internships usually pay notoriously little if at all.</p>

<p>cptofthehouse,</p>

<p>thanks. I’ll be in Chicago finishing up my lease until May anyway, so it works out pretty well. </p>

<p>as for pay, I’m not expecting anything huge at all. my only real objective here is to get experience, even if the pay is terrible. to be honest, I’d even work an unpaid internship just for the experience.</p>

<p>I guess then that you have sufficient funding from somewhere. You see, when I was in your situation, the problem was paying for room and board while I worked and took some classes. Had to come up with $s for the classes, and had to pay living expenses as well. So I had to find work that could cover that. Had I gone home, all I would have had to do was to find the money for the classes, since family would cover my costs if I lived with them. I did not feel like hitting them up for additional money, which would have been a tough situation for them, for additional time at school.</p>

<p>I’m sorry I dont think your situation is “depressing”.</p>

<p>How is it not depressing? Just imagine yourself in haoleboy’s shoes, he has no idea how the next year of his life will work out and whether or not he will even be able to land a job.</p>

<p>And I’m sure unnecessary posts within the thread that seemingly talk down upon the poster aren’t helping the matter.</p>

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<p>There are people in this world who have no idea how the next day of their life will work out and whether or not they will even be able to find food to eat.</p>

<p>So no, his situation is not depressing. And yes, aji6 is right for feeling that way.</p>

<p>seesy, take a hike you flaming tool</p>

<p>This is just ridiculous. You obviously aren’t in the right shoes to determine what is or isn’t depressing; let’s not change this into a starvation thread.</p>

<p>Son, you can’t always get what you want. Chicago is a great down and most people love it. Or you could go to most other major mainland cities. Lots of us never move back home after college. Go out and see the USA. If you really must go back to HI you should have considered hotel mgt or accounting.</p>