Help me find some smaller, LAC ish schools for CS!

You are a match for Emory. Show them a sincere interest, and perhaps frame your ECs in a way that shows how you might pursue them further in college, and you are likely to be accepted. (Not sure whether you’ve posted your GPA. I’ve assumed it’s very good to excellent.)

@ormdad: Those are good points. I think if the OP went, say, 1800 and up, she would have more Northeastern options though.

The biggest message this thread has left me with is that I really hope I get into Tufts ED! @ormdad is correct in saying that there aren’t a huge number of matches for what I’m looking for. Realistically I’m going to have to consider more schools with 10-15K students.

Also, I would encourage you not to rule out schools because you “think” they may be too conservative if the school looks like a good fit for you on paper. Try to visit these schools. You may be surprised.

Skidmore, I agree, would not be optimal. Math and computer science are grouped in the same department.

Actually, it is the bigger, more well known companies that recruit widely. But the recruiting by smaller (particularly non-local) companies that have fewer needs and fewer recruiting staff falls off at smaller and less well known schools. (Even the larger companies do appear to have heavy local representation, though. Apple has a lot of San Jose State alumni, for example.)

You are getting some great advice. I would re offer Brandeis (size and near Boston), Emory (Atlanta is a big city!), Rice (Houston is the fourth largest city in the US; STEM oriented school, with popular residential colleges so it feels homey), and Macalester (in a city, small but very diverse; kids are more verbal than mathy so your math score won’t feel so low).

I don’t think this has been raised: are you against big publics with honors programs or with special CS programs that would make them feel smaller? Resources and recruiting for CS are often better at big Us.

I know that recruiting is probably better at big schools. That is the sacrifice I am willing to make for a school were I will be happier and more comfortable, because I feel that I will be more successful in a smaller environment.

The area where Emory is located is pretty liberal, I think. Rice has a reputation for niceness. Houston is very diverse. Very Hispanic, a lesbian mayor(!), even though it is in conservative Texas.

This thread is fairly long, not sure if Oberlin got a mention. Seems about right in several ways for you.

One of my daughter’s student panelists at Amherst open house is a senior CS major headed to Google. It happens.

I’ve gotten some good advice here, and some great mid size universities that are a lot like Tufts. I have a better understanding of the size of some of these undergrad programs: thanks for everyone’s help!

I’m going to look more into:
-WUSTL
-Emory
-CMU
And I’m still thinking seriously about
-Brandeis
-Rochester
-Brown (mega reach)
-Wesleyan
-Amherst
As well as my safeties. I am not worried about being a direct admit to CS at Umass Amherst, nor do I think I should be. Thank you everyone!

@Coffeelover123 I am really impressed with your maturity and realistic outlook. I think you are one of the most sensible teenagers we have seen posting on this board! And personally, I think you are right to look to LACs even though you want to major in CS. Many people feel that LACs generally provide a better overall education than big universities, simply due to the focus on undergrads and the small class sizes with involved faculty. And yes, you can still get a good CS education at a LAC, though you are right to look for the specific ones that are stronger in that area. For what it’s worth, while my son and I were touring the U of Richmond, two former students gave a talk about their experiences working at Google. Both had graduated from Richmond with majors in CS. So simply going to a LAC does not preclude future success in CS, obviously! And if you were to change majors, you would be in good shape at a LAC, whereas you might feel rather stuck somewhere like Georgia Tech.

Speaking of Richmond specifically, I’m not sure it would be a perfect match for you, since it’s somewhat fratty…although, in Richmond’s defense, there are no residential frat/sorority houses, so the greek scene there seems to be more like a club than a lifestyle. Other things about Richmond might work for you, like the beautiful suburban environment, proximity to the NE, small student body and class sizes, and middle-of-the-road politics.

But I have to concur with many other posters here, you’ve got some obvious choices that do appear to be great matches like Tufts, Emory, Rochester and Brown. And if you want to get adventurous, I’d look at Rice. It might really surprise you!

And please do not sell yourself short…go ahead and apply to any school you are interested in, including Cornell if you like. You may think you are a boring honors student with no hooks, but in your writing you are coming across as very mature, thoughtful and insightful. I would not be surprised if your essays made it to the top of the pile, so you may have a greater chance of acceptance at some of these schools than you think. And for that same reason, you probably have a better than average chance of acceptance at Tufts ED.

Best of luck! :slight_smile:

Great list @Coffeelover123! Two things: 1) you should really take a look at Carleton- it is far away, and super cold, but I think it is a good match for what you are looking for. 2) CMU CS is an ultra-reach for everyone, I think the acceptance rate for CS is around 2.5%. And it is not possible to major in CS without a direct admit at CMU.

Also, you sound a lot like my Daughter who will be attending Tufts this Fall. Just to give you an idea of where she applied and how she fared, here are her results. She is a 4.0/4.7 student, 2140 SAT, good ECs, including a CS club she founded that meets at Harvard, Varsity Athlete, great essays/supplements. I do think the “girl in CS” thing helped.

Accepted:
Tufts (CS/Engineering)
Grinnell
Northeastern (CS)
Skidmore
UMass Amherst (CS)
UVM (CS)

Waitlisted:
Vassar
Carleton
MIT
Harvard (accepted spot on wl)

Rejected:
Brown (ED, Deferred)
Yale
CMU CS

I think her top 5 were Brown, Tufts, Carleton, Yale and Harvard. Not amazing results, but she is overjoyed to be going to Tufts.

After she applied to Brown, she realized Tufts was really the school for her, and was a little bit relieved that she got deferred so she could have a chance at Tufts.

I tried to get her to look at WUSTL but she had a Calc teacher she adored who had very bad things to say about it. I think WUSTL was a little too competitive/cutthroat for the teacher, but I’ve read otherwise on CC so you should find out for yourself by visiting and talking to students. I’m not sure socially/culturally it’s really that similar to Tufts, but there sure do seem to be a lot of cross-admits. I just couldn’t see students at WUSTL going on a hunger strike to protest janitorial cuts.

For Tufts, doing ED and really working on the supplements are important. Their admissions blog has a lot of helpful information about what they are looking for.

Good luck!

Emory is not a particularly conservative school, and Atlanta is a fairly progressive city. Emory also has the Oxford option, smaller LAC experience for the first two years them move to main campus.

I will look into Rice!
Thank you! That was very kind.