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Never has he allowed a student to be rejected from every single school they apply to. </p>
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<p>Your GC cannot control that. </p>
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<p>Nobody is saying that it’s impossible for you to get accepted to those schools.</p>
<p>You seem to have some trouble with logic. I suggest that when you’re in college that you take Deductive Logic, which will likely be found in the Philosophy dept.</p>
<p>People are saying that those schools aren’t safeties because you MIGHT NOT get accepted to them. </p>
<p>OP, I’ve been reading this forum for more years than I’ve been posting and what I’ve noticed about long time posters (several of whom are on this thread) is that they try to prevent problems for students as best they can. Come spring when the boards are inundated with posts from families scrambling to find affordable options for their children, these people will be spending their time (a lot of it and for free) researching and offering suggestions to help get those kids on the right track. They are only trying to help you.</p>
<p>Please follow their advice and make sure you have a school that you’re sure you can get ACCEPTED to, that you can AFFORD, and that you’d be HAPPY TO ATTEND. That’s a true SAFETY. If Vassar’s it for you, that’s great, but your classification of colleges like NYU (that are tough to get into, expensive, and stingy with aid) as safeties make the adults on this board question your understanding of a true safety. Many kids (thousands) have stats that make them Ivy League contenders, but many are rejected every year. Nobody is saying you will be – we always hope for the best – just be sure you have a backup plan.</p>
<p>@oxoxhawja3xoxo You need to work on your communication to get a better response. What you should have said was that you were a recruited athlete, your UW GPA was 3.8, your SAT is currently 2040, and you are an URM from the south. Then everyone could assist you. Your stats are not uncommon but the other factors are important. Err on the side of humility.</p>
<p>You seem to be looking for a target that is preferable to Vassar. Without knowing your intended major, it’s hard to make recommendations. I also can’t tell whether you would prefer a larger university or a small LAC? You like Boston and NY, so why not explore other options in those cities? Fordham, Boston College, etc. </p>
<p>My opinion is that a “true safety” would be something along the lines of LSU or University of Alabama. A safety is a place where you are certain you will be accepted, and you are certain you can afford.</p>
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Vassar may not be the safety you think it is if you didn’t apply ED. Most coaches use up their slots in the ED round(s). They don’t want to use what power they have to get recruits in on students who may very well choose another school.</p>
<p>@3boystogo I don’t really have a size preference, though diversity of students is a major factor for me. Boston College doesn’t seem to have very much of that, but I may be wrong. Fordham sounds like a good option. Being from Louisiana, LSU is absolutely not an option. Alabama isn’t much better. Both are too close to home, and all play and no work, in my opinion. </p>
<p>@sue22 I think that is how it typically works, but because Vassar is DIII, I don’t think they’re as serious as other athletic programs. When I told the coach I wasn’t applying ED, he still said, “You have me on your side.” and I’m pretty sure he was referring to the admissions process. </p>
<p>@gearmom I don’t agree. I don’t think the other factors make a difference in simply suggesting schools that I may want to look into. How could they? </p>
<p>@oxoxhawja3xoxo Your GPA and SAT states are fine but not out of the ballpark. Being a URM, would be important to some schools. I know I received job offers simply because I was a woman in my field. Being from the South is important if the school is looking for geographical diversity. Being a recruited athlete… I don’t even need to explain why that is important.</p>
<p>I am sorry you are hearing folks saying you are not good enough. I know that is not my intent and I expect it is not the intent of most others. What we are saying is, yes, you are very good, and you are now competing with lots of other kids who are very good, not just other URM, smart, hard working, athletic girls from the South, but kids all over the world. If you attended Reed’s and Wellesley’s diversity programs you probably got a good sense of other kids who are competitive with you.</p>
<p>You have excellent chances of great success. Folks here just want to help you ensure that you have options in the end. I personally know a smart, hard working kid from a strong school with strong guidance who wound up rejected or waitlisted at all his schools, primarily small LACs. He wound up being accepted off the waitlist but can you imagine how awful that interim was?</p>
<p>I was also going to address the recruited athlete issue. Although the coach has indicated you will have support even if you do not apply ED, I would caution you not to consider that a done deal. It’s hard to know exactly how much sway a coach will have in admissions and how much support a coach is giving you relative to other recruits. I wouldn’t treat it as a true safety even if the coach likes you. As @Sue22 has suggested, there is a lot of great info in the athletic recruits forum that might give you some insight.</p>
<p>I stand by my earlier recommendation of Bryn Mawr. Another LAC that may be more of a safety for you is Macalester. Great school, in St. Paul so urban. And NYU won’t be a true option if you can’t afford it. If money is an issue, look at programs that will give you merit for your stats (even if you feel they are not at your academic level) or that are known for their generous FA.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I hope you get an ED acceptance and this is all unnecessary!</p>
<p>OP if Varssa is your safety why you bother to ask here? Apparently, you may have the ticket to Varssa but it may not be affordable. I suggest you to look into the following automatic scholarship schools:</p>
<p>After all, you are like most people, you are no different from hundreds thousands URM applicants. Harvard is not going to take in an average student just because you have a southern state URM status. You should seriously reconsider the SECA application to Harvard. What you are missing is other opportunities in the early round.</p>
<p>@artloversplus You seem very bitter. You must not have gotten in to your reach school. I am so sorry you feel that way. You can keep telling me I’m just average, but I know that I am better than that, and in April, I will have the acceptances to prove it. It may not be Harvard, but it will be somewhere else where I will be happy. If you aren’t even going to attempt to be helpful, then stop posting in my thread. </p>
<p>haha, do you think every one on the net are students of your age? As a retired person with about 4 rental homes in CA, I really do not have to go to school or work any more. If you do not respect anyone that is trying to help you, with your arrogant attitude, you cannot be very successful.</p>
<p>@LeftofPisa Thanks for the insight. I will have a look at Macalester. Bryn Mawr is totally not my personality, so I’d rather not even consider it. I just don’t feel nervous about not getting in anywhere… I mean, my sister had less than stellar EVERYTHING and got into several good schools. She had a 3.3 and an 1800 something on the SAT. She was rejected from Wake Forest, Columbia, and a few other places, but was accepted to Barnard, UMiami, Baylor, Fordham, and LSU. She did say that regretted not applying to more competitive schools because she feels like she could have gotten in at this point. She is ultimately the one who motivated me to apply to Harvard. From her acceptances, my sister selected Barnard, and is now friends with the dean of admissions who said it really all came down to her essays. I found that funny because my sister is a pretty lackluster writer, but she had a good story to tell I suppose. The maths and sciences are definitely more of her thing. She is now studying computer science and is finding great success and internships in the entrepreneurial sector of NYC. Nobody would have predicted she was capable of so much when she was in high school, but I truly believe that colleges can get a clear picture of who is talented vs. who has the drive to use that talent to make an impact in the real world, and sometimes those people are the ones with the mediocre stats, but their recs and essays prove they are true superstars. Also, kids who were not at the tops of their classes at my school have been accepted to places like UVA, Emerson, Vanderbilt, Bowdoin, etc. I have a pretty good gauge of where I stand in comparison to my classmates, and kids from the classes ahead of me, and I know that I will get in somewhere on my list. For kids who my counselor is unsure about, it is mandatory that they apply to LSU as a backup. For the students with GPAs that begin with a 2, it is mandatory that they apply to Ole Miss. I was not one of those students. </p>
<p>OP has received some good information and now needs time to process said info. As recent posts are now going around in circles, this thread is closed.</p>