(On second thought - I do realize that as a Californian, making your way out to New York or anywhere on the east coast may be difficult, but even visiting local schools can be helpful! This is something I did before my parents starting planning expensive college trips and I found it extremely helpful!)
Take of Rensselaer.
Plz help me: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1857229-weighing-business-physics-options.html#latest
@dragonfly26 Yeah, I just recently visited USC and realized how much I like big schools. They’re filled with life, you could practically live on campus, etc. Most likely at Fordham, I’d go to school at the Lincoln Center campus, for Global business, so I’d get a more similar feel to Pace and NYU, being in Manhattan.
What are your thoughts on removing UMass Amherst and Michigan State University?
That’s good that you know that much already! I’m the same way. I don’t know if you have a specific size range that you’re looking for, but Pace’s New York campus is on the smaller size (about 5k). I figured you’d be looking into Lincoln Center, and it does have more of a city feel, but the LC campus has I think 1.5k students. It’s a very small size, which was the biggest deal-breaker for me. Obviously, it’s up to you - you still have access to the Rose Hill campus I believe, but because it takes away from that life you’re looking for, I think that’s a major factor to consider.
As for removing those schools, I would be in favor in that. With OOS public schools you’re likely to have not a whole lot of resources or quality teachers/classes for the price you pay. If financial aid is important to you, you’ll probably have a hard time getting what you need from an OOS public. I learned that the hard way.
I would put these schools on a “Maybe” list though instead of completely eliminating them from the picture. In fact, it might be a good idea to order the schools based on your personal preferences, then apply to your top 5-10 or whatever you choose. I actually made an excel sheet with information on each school regarding the distance, calendar, majors available, average net price, diversity, Princeton Review’s academic/quality of life ratings, and other things that were important to me and made a point system to determine which schools were theoretically the best and worst for me. Granted, I don’t think you should decide which schools to apply to based on data alone, but it definitely helped me a LOT.
Speaking of Princeton Review… since you probably won’t be able to visit all of these schools before you start applying, I would definitely recommend looking up your schools on there. They can give you a good description, more subjective of the student body and campus life from the viewpoints of students. Cappex is also a good site for this.
Since you like cities, have you looked into American University and Catholic Univ in Wash DC? You might want to see if they offer the business deg you want. As someone living on the East Coast, I have to say again that Fairleigh Dickinson is nothing special. I would say the same for Pace. Pace probably would feel like a commuter school with lots of older people attending. You can get that city feel at other schools, but still feel like your’re on a campus and having fun. You might want to think about universities in big cities that don’t have tons of hispanics or people from california. That would give you and edge in admissions, I would think. Maybe places like the U of Denver or the Univ of Minnesota, which looks like their fairly cheap for OOS people. GL
Farleigh Dickinson wasn’t on the OP’s original list until he mistook it for Dickinson when it was suggested partway through the thread… then he didn’t take it off.
@dragonfly26 Yeah, I figured although they were smaller sized campuses and less student, since it’s New York city I wouldn’t mind that aspect. I also have an excel sheet haha. With the amount of time I’m putting into researching these universities I should be able to put it as another extra-curricular activity! Thank you, I think for now I’ll remove UMass and Michigan state. SOOO, my current list is the following:
Boston University
UC Berkeley
UC Irvine?
Fairleigh Dickinson University - Metropolitan Campus (@intparent The online app is free, so I’ll apply if I have the time, and energy, but more than likely may end up removing it again. I originally took it off my list because having another app fee would be a lot.)
Fordham University
Indiana U Bloomington (An uncle got his MBA here, and another his LLM, I doubt that helps though)
New York University
Pace University NYC
Purdue University (both of my parents’ alma mater[also two of my uncles’])
Rensselaer Polytech Institute
Syracuse University
Tulane University
Case Western Reserve (also a free application, since it’s a reach, It is also at the bottom of my list)
Penn State University
Spend time prepping to increase your scores to increase your chances. Try Khanacademy.org
@citymama9 @FutureUniversity
The recommendation was for DICKINSON COLLEGE IN CARLISLE, PA—not Fairleigh Dickinson. Nobody is recommending Fairleigh Dickinson.
Here is the original post recommending Dickinson, post #2:
And here is her follow-up, post #31:
@brantly the original poster is applying to Fairleigh Dickinson. I know that Dickinson College has been suggested.
It just doesn’t make sense to discard Dickinson (which has excellent financial aid and international business&management) and include Fairleigh Dickinson (which has neither). I understand that the poster isn’t so much applying to FDU as throwing in a free app.
I just can’t keep adding schools, it’s expensive just to apply and another school won’t help. Dickinson is much smaller than I am accustomed to and it seems hard to get into. According to my school’s database, its average accepted GPA is 4.24, mainly because few from my school have ever applied, but I wouldn’t like to add another reach-ish school. FDU is only here because I could apply for free, and its business program is decent and it is close to NYC.
I think people are confused because FDU wasn’t on your original lust, but appeared after Dickindon College was suggested. If you have to look for free apps, you better run the net price calculators on all your schools. Most in your list do not meet need or give notoriously poor aid. No point in putting in apps, free or otherwise, to schools that are not affordable, The net price calculator can be found on each school’s website, usually on the page about affording the school or financial aid.
How about Richmond?
Applications with no application fee are not free in terms of time and money. You still need to spend time doing them (time, particularly if essays are involved), and you may need to get recommendations (time, and may make work for others), SAT or ACT scores (money), and transcripts (possibly money).
If there is no possibility of attending the school, then it is not worth the bother to apply.
Run the NPC on EVERY college on your current list (throw in Dickinson College and FDU).
Bring the results to your parents. See what they can afford “out of pocket” (from savings and income).
Once you’ve had this conversation, discard the colleges that are too expensive. If the remaining list is to small, come back to your thread for more suggestions. 3/4 your original list are meant for families who can easily afford 50K a year and thus it doesn’t mesh with the $500-1,000 it’ll cost you to apply to a variety of colleges. Add the UCs, which will likely cost about 35K, and which I hope are affordable"out of pocket" for your parents.
(On the other hand, FDU is unlikely to require any essay… but if you get into UCI why in the world would you attend FDU? In CA equivalents, it’s a bit like ULaVerne.)
@MYOS1634 is spot on- take fairleigh and pace off your list. They are expensive and not worth it, even if you have money ( a Lexus price for a Chevy, essentially). If you are concerned about app fees, that already suggests you should be looking for more affordable schools.You also need to work on your getting your scores up.
@mathprof63 I had pace as an academic safety, FDU as well to make sure I had a college I could potentially go to. Without them do you think any on my list would qualify as a (academic) safety? Also, don’t worry I am definitely working on increasing my scores up.
@FutureUniversity try University of South Carolina. They are supposedly the number one for international business