<p>have been accepted to the following schools:
UT austin
University of colorado boulder
Emory
UCSB
i going to major in business, i not a prestigious freak, i´m trying to find the best fit for me.I only visited University of colorado boulder which i loved , UT austin very amazing and emory didn´t like very much.
the thing is UT austin is the cheapest and UC boulder 36.000$ and UCSB 39.000$. are the most expensive.so my question is do you think UC boulder is worth that kinda of money?.UC boulder is the one i liked better(loved the campus , very friendly students and professors) but my parents are pressuring me to go to california... i hate beach i´n not sure i would enjoy there .
Which university do you think is the best value??
Also i little feedback on each university would be much appreciated</p>
<p>Congratulations Petros. </p>
<p>Internationally, UT, UCSB and UCBoulder have about the same amount of prestige--in my opinion. Each school will provide 'local' business connections--so if your interest is in high tech--then UCSB makes the most sense followed closely by UTAustin.</p>
<p>By all means, if your parents can afford it and you enjoy an outdoor lifestyle in the mountains--go to Boulder. Hopefully the business you end up with will combine your lifestyle interests! </p>
<p>pm curmudgeon to get the best UT Austin insights.</p>
<p>UT Austin and Emory are probably the best, academics-wise. </p>
<p>Best value is defined as getting the best quality for the lowest amount of money. UT Austin is an excellent school, especially in business (it's the strongest on your list), and also the cheapest. </p>
<p>But....I have a feeling that "best value" isn't what you meant to ask. It seems like you're more interested in following your heart and going to your best fit school. In that case, go to CU Boulder. If your stats are good enough to get you into Emory and UT's business school, I'm sure CU would cut some sort of a merit scholarship for you, if you explained the situation.</p>
<p>thank you guys for your help it means the wolrd to me!!!
what i didn´t like about Emory was the students i felt like they could careless about me..the staff and professors were very nice to me...and the enviroment is very important to me ...where a come from (italy) we are very happy and friendly people... that´s why i cut emory from my list.
UT austin was a very very good experience i loved austin and the university is a powerhouse!!!
UCSB:i have never been to Santa barbara but from what i have seen from the internet it looks like paradise..but for some reason i have a bad feeling about UCSB , it just doesn´t feel right.
UC boulder:i flew to denver and spent 2 days there i loved the city not too big not too small...people were very kind to me .Then i went to boulder ...uauu what a nice place , and the university has italian archtecture(that brought tears to my eyes) very very beautiful.very nice facilites .
I was sure about choosing UC boulder but then i saw some negatives comments about it(It was not worth the money) that´s why i´m freaking out...Is UC boulder well know in north america or only in colorado?I know that here in italy it´s a very well regarded institutuion...</p>
<p>In this case, I would define "best value" slightly differently. I see college as an investment. Is the cost worth the payoff? COst of education vs. expected earnings is what I might look at. Just to throw out easy numbers, referring to your out of pocket costs starting salary based on 4 yr degree if a school costs 100000 and you expect to earn 35k yr compared to a school that costs 160000 that you think would likely earn you 40 k yr. In that simple example, the additional 60k spent would earn you 5k more yr. Those additional costs plus interest on them would be paid off in about 16 yrs, assuming you put the whole 5k extra as a payment each yr. Naturally, the loan would take longer if you made smaller payments than I have estimated. In that example you'd be paying off loans 16 yrs longer than from the cheaper school. Only then, would the additional salary you're earning be money you could keep.
Keep in mind here too, that in this example you are also paying back the 100000 from the more expensive school. So there, one has to ask what is the cost/payoff time of that 100000 debt plus the additional 60k debt. Am I willing to be paying that much debt when I graduate? Will I be able to have a good life? Will I be 50 when I reach the break-even point(compared the the cheaper school)?, Will I only be paying my school loans?
You can create more accurate examples for your self since you have a better handle on actual costs/expected earnings. The hard part can be guessing what each school's education will earn you. Sometimes better name recognition leads to quicker hiring and more opportunities. Sometimes a schools reputation good or bad affects opportunities. Perhaps we see in the news a high-profile businessmsn from an Ivy on his way to prison. Or, we can all think of a school with a powerhouse sports team, but we also know a group recently shown innocent of rape. Fair or not, some reputations can influence hiring. While U.S. News may rate schools 1, 2, 3, the real world human resource staff doesn't. I recommend since the 4 you mentioned have the education you're seeking, do the money example, to narrow it to the best 2. Then let the school you like better be the tie-breaker.</p>
<p>nice...I won´t be taking any loans my parents will pay my whole education.so the cost/salary thing doesn´t really aplly to me..then also i believe life in cal if more expensive then in colorado..so i person earning 60K a year in colorado and person earning 70K a year in Cali would have pretty much the same quality of life right??
My concern is...let´s imagine i have graduated at uc boulder but i want to move to chicago for example .would they look at my diploma in a positive way ?would the UCSB or Ut austin diploma impress them more?Here in Europe they don´t pay much attention to where you went to school, they look more at your personal qualities and you experience in your field...</p>
<p>gee, I wish you would have told us all that to begin with. Why did you mention cost anyway? You should have told us money didn't matter.</p>
<p>is not tha money doesn´t matter.. i just don´t want overpay for something that is not worth ..</p>
<p>I suggest a visit to Santa Barbara before crossing it off your list. California is very friendly and Santa Barbara is a global destination. If you can afford it, I would definitely take a look. The University of California is a pretty well known name.</p>
<p>Petros, what area of business do you hope to pursue?</p>
<p>"Petros, what area of business do you hope to pursue?"
i´m not sure..global trading, marketing, logistics...
" suggest a visit to Santa Barbara before crossing it off your list. California is very friendly and Santa Barbara is a global destination. If you can afford it, I would definitely take a look. The University of California is a pretty well known name" I have no doubt that UCSB is a very good school,,, i wish i could visit but i won´t have time.I was looking at it´s business department and it looks solid , very nice.
i would like to hear from someone who really knows(studies there or know someone who has) one of this schools.who is it´s enviroment, academics, internships oportunities...</p>
<p>An Italian in Southern California???! You will be surrounded by beautiful, intelligent blondes at UCSB! Just kidding (you will, of course, but that is just frivolous). </p>
<p>The best location on your list is UCSB IMHO. You need to follow your heart, of course, but parents often know best. :-)</p>
<p>Very tempting.Well UC bould and Ut have very beautiful girls.Are the girls in UCSB like the ones in the OC tv show??</p>
<p>UCSB grad here. The Univ of California system is superb throughout. UCSB has several amazing nobel prize winning faculty. You absolutely cannot go wrong academcially there. UCSB is competitive but nothing like UCLA and Berkeley in terms of intensity. </p>
<p>The campus is gorgeous. While it is "on the beach" you don't have to be a beach goer....The weather is definitely California beach weather. It will be overcast in the morinings and sunny in the afternooons. The temp will be pretty much perfect year round. The hardest thing is that it will be fabulous during the week before and during finals and you will be tempted to be outside, enjoying the sunshine. The campus is perfect for bicylcing and almost all students cruise around on 2 wheels. The campus size is very accessible. We used to say that all you needed at UCSB was a bike, backpack and Birkenstocks (for those of you too young to remember, those were the must-wear sandals for students in the 70's). If you haven't sent in housing yet, you will probably not get on-campus housing, which is too bad. It is by far better than off -campus for freshmen. I understand housing is currently a problem and overcrowded. I just recall the dorms to be nice on campus and the food actually pretty good. Someone said they have builts some new on campus dorms. Not sure there. </p>
<p>UCSB does have a "party atmosphere" but I was a serious student and you definitely don't have to be a partier to have a great experience there. The University is really not in SB, but in the town of Goleta/Isla Vista (connected to campus). Isla Vista is pretty much a student ghetto. Solid, wall- to -wall student apartments. No one over 30 anywhere in sight. </p>
<p>UCSB is not in the OC and since I live in the OC, I can tell you that it is a myth. Having said that, UCSB is said to have great looking girls, if I do say so myself.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for the feedback.
since you are a grad let me ask you something.How is the other universities(UC boulder and UT austin) reputation in the eyes of an californian?Do employers prefer california universities over others?
did you dislike something about UCSB?</p>
<p>I'm pretty familiar with 3 out of 4 of your schools. The only one I haven't visited is UCSB (visited the area but not the campus), but blucroo covered that very well. My son visited it, took scads of pictures, and told us about it. It has to be one of the most beautiful campuses in the US. UCSB has a solid reputation, so no problem there.</p>
<p>I've also been to Bolzano. There's no doubt in my mind that UC Boulder is the most like your hometown of the 4 schools you named, so I can understand why you liked it. I've lived in Denver, know kids who went to UC Boulder, and have a son and a niece who live and work in the area now. Son is in the IT industry, and niece is an accountant. Denver has a thriving economy with lots of opportunity, and UC Boulder is the major university locally. You shouldn't have any problem making internship connections. Denver is pretty isolated geographically from other big US cities; consequently, it's a major commerce center of the Mountain West. If you liked it best and cost is not the deciding factor, then I don't think perceived reputation of any of these schools need be a factor for you. All 4 of these schools enjoy equally good regional reputations. Do well at your studies, seek out opportunities as they become available to you, and enjoy your time as an undergraduate. You'll do just fine.</p>
<p>UT Austin has an excellent reputation for its business school, AND it's the cheapest. No brainer. Go to UT!</p>
<p>I think the University of California system has a top reputation across the country and especially on the west coast. If you are from out of state, getting in to a UC means you are pretty top notch. Even for instate kids, the UC's continue to represent excellence in education. You will no trouble using any UC as jumping off point for grad school and employment. Because of the incredible reputation of UCLA and Berkeley, the entire UC system rises above the reputations of most big state run universities and is by far the best state-wide system in the country (if you consider not only the individual campuses and their statistics, but the graduate and professional programs; medical schools, etc.) While SB is not the other two, it has many of the same world class programs and professors (they love living in SB)</p>
<p>Out here, Boulder has a reputation of being easier to get into and where you go to ski...........(sorry, boulder fans....just reporting the impression..maybe not the reality). Other than skiing, there would be no reason for a California student to go there compared to a UC</p>
<p>I don't know that much about Texas, but it is not a school California kids aspire to. </p>
<p>The one thing I found I did not like at SB is that it is somewhat isolated from the "real world". SB is a slice of heaven and you could go a long time and not know what is going on in the major US cities and in the government. Having said that, my D, a student at a well known private LAC in Boston, can go weeks without paying attention to the world outside her college, as well.<br>
SB used to be a center of political activism (back in the post -Viet Nam era). It then became more apathetic. I don't know if that is true now with Iraq and other hot issues. Go to the UCSB site on CC and ask if that is important to you.</p>
<p>Reputaion wise, I would say UT Austin > Emory > UCSB > Colorado</p>
<p>About UCSB...i can imagine one would feel isolated from what´s going ..i see that santa barbara is "far" from los angeles...Is there any good transportation from SB to La?
I recived a private mensage from Tarhunt where he emphysized the more party than serious academic caracteristics of UC boulder.But i believe that all other schools(maybe not emory) i´ve been accepted are party schools.do UCSB and UT austin have the same more party then study reputation?
Another question that i have;I see a lot of people here complaining about how huge classes are at public schools. is that really true?is it all the 4 years or just for the core curriculum?
Once again thank you very very much!!!</p>