Help! Program encouraging me to commit plagiarism!

<p>Hello, </p>

<p>I'm a current student at Penn. I am doing research at another school during the summer.
The contract for this summer research (introductory research, ha) states that we have
to produce a poster by the end of the program.</p>

<p>The program is eight weeks long total; one week was wasted for orientation, and another
week was also wasted, in my case, due to the fact that my original mentor "dropped out",
so to speak. Another week was spent on training me in the lab, to where I have had
three effective weeks of research.</p>

<p>After three weeks, they want me to produce a poster.</p>

<p>Not really too much of a problem, well, aside from the fact that this research is supposed to be introductory, and considering I have an interest, but not a great deal of knowledge, in the field, as you can well guess I have not much of an idea as to what I am doing.</p>

<p>However, this program insists that we create a poster. Since I have no clue what I am doing, I asked my research advisor for help in explaining to me exactly what we were doing so that I could create something. Instead, he states that he's busy, and he will email me. He emails me the abstract, and basically tells me to 'rewrite' it in my own words. </p>

<p>Last time I checked, that was plagiarism. I am entirely against doing this, and I refuse to do it. If I don't know enough to produce a poster (after three weeks!), then I just won't produce a poster. This school doesn't seem to understand that committing plagiarism is a serious academic offense, and it will not only go against my ethical viewpoint, but could also potentially get me into some serious trouble at Penn. </p>

<p>I discussed my frustration with my research advisor, who pretty much explained to me that if I "...didn't want to be here I shouldn't have applied to the program..." (has nothing to do with my wanting to be here or not), and he advised me to discuss it with the program heads.</p>

<p>My advisor from Penn wrote me an obviously excellent recommendation in order to gain acceptance into this program. I tried to contact him to ask him for advice, but he will be out of the office for a while. I don't want to make him "look bad" by making an a ss of myself while at this program because I refuse to invent and plagiarize things...</p>

<p>Please help.</p>

<p>If you’re doing introductory research, then your research advisor’s name should also be on the poster. In which case, this would not be plagarism. Most research papers have more than one author.</p>

<p>Just paraphrase the abstract, it’s not illegal. Especially since the advisor will be linked to it. The way you write gave me a headache though.</p>

<p>I think you should drop out and write a book about ethics.</p>

<p>u might learn more this way- following by example</p>

<p>Unless you present it all as your own ideas it’s not illegal. You need to cite your mentor. I learned half of my science by reading scietific papers. I figured out what was going on in my labs by reading papers by the PI. When I had to do a poster I used those papers (and cited them properly) to write my background information. Unless you plan to reinvent the wheel with every poster and paper, thats what you do.</p>

<p>Put your advisor’s name as “Advisor: Dr. John Doe” below your name in your poster, and include the paper from which you’re paraphrasing off in the References section at the end of your poster, and properly acknowledge where you’re getting the ideas from. Then you’re not plagiarising. This is a big part of what introductory research is, you read papers, understand them, and get familiar with the research being done, so there is nothing wrong with a poster that summarizes research done by other people.</p>

<p>“This is a big part of what introductory research is, you read papers, understand them, and get familiar with the research being done, so there is nothing wrong with a poster that summarizes research done by other people.”</p>

<p>Hi, </p>

<p>I don’t think you all understand exactly what I mean. My research advisor was preoccupied, as usual (he brings his child in everyday and doesn’t arrive until midday), and told me, as his child began to scream, that he was “…busy…” and would “…send me something over the weekend.”</p>

<p>He sent me a five-sentence abstract. </p>

<p>I brought it back into him on Monday.</p>

<p>He then told me verbatim, “Take what I wrote and rewrite it in your own words.”</p>

<p>I was not able to read any research papers, I was not able to draw my own conclusions- he was insinuating that I should take whatever he writes, and rewrite it to sound “more like yourself” (his words exactly).</p>

<p>I am not being given the opportunity to read and analyze research papers and draw my own conclusions- he simply wants me to ‘paraphrase’ his writing, as he completes the necessary parts for the poster. He wants to do the poster, essentially, and just have me paraphrase it. This is not doing my own work. Whether or not I cite him on the poster, it is still not my work- he would be writing the dam n thing, I would just be “making it sound like your own”.</p>

<p>Tell me that’s not plagiarism.</p>

<p>Why can’t you read his research papers? Look him up on pubmed and use Penn Libraries to access the journals. If that doesn’t work talk to people you work with and see if they can point you in the right direction for papers.</p>

<p>Don’t just cite him. Put him as an author. Put your name, comma, advisor’s name, comma, PI/professor’s name (if applicable) at the top of the poster under the title. This is not plagiarism. Even if all you did was physically perform the experiments, you can still be an author.</p>

<p>Okay, tuser, I can tell from your phrasing of “commit plagiarism” rather than “plagiarize” that you think this is a really serious offense, likeable to a crime. And you know what? That’s admirable, maybe a little naive, but admirable. So if you don’t feel comfortable using this guy’s abstract, make your own. Read research papers and formulate your own conclusions. If you’re not happy with his help, which amounted to too much help, then don’t take his help at all.</p>

<p>Um, Susiebra- it is a serious crime. Sounds like you’ve committed a lot of plagiarism. I’m not sure which school you attend, but if you are a student at Penn and get caught for doing that, you’ll get into a s** tstorm of trouble, no matter where the incident occured.</p>

<p>I appreciate that you believe that this is naive though. Please, go commit plagiarism, and then turn yourself into whatever department is in charge of plagiarism at your school. See if it doesn’t turn into an issue.</p>

<p>And if you actually read my posts thoroughly, which you clearly did not, you would understand that there is no time to “read research papers and formulate [your] own conclusions”… the poster is due in one day, and the information he gave me up to this
point was that I would learn it along the way and that there was no need to do any reading and that he would assign me what I needed to know.</p>

<p>Thanks, though, for your superb job at sarcasm.</p>

<p>You could just make a really crappy poster and call it a day. If you have to present it just don’t show up. It sounds pretty bad, but it’s not illegal and won’t get you in as much trouble as plagiarism.</p>

<p>@Venkat89 - Sadly, that’s my plan.</p>

<p>@Susiebra - just went through some of your previous posts, you’ll be starting here this fall? Please, bring your “plagiarism is not a serious crime attitude” with you- I have a few good friends who need to transfer in and would love to take your spot.</p>

<p>This should have posted earlier…</p>

<p>At the beginning of this research ‘experience’, I asked him if there was anything I should be reading. He explained to me that there wasn’t and that I would learn “as I go along”. I My observation, which is probably worthless, is that you can’t learn evolutionary and environmental biology “as you go along” in three weeks.</p>

<p>I don’t know much about primer sets, bacterial samples, PCR, etc. I came to this program so that I could at least gain an elementary knowledge of these things, and instead my research advisor has patently refused to be involved in any manner. There have been numerous occasions where he has not shown up for lab at all (a few times, keeping me waiting for 2+ hours, hoping he’d come by midday but not showing up at all) and I would be left there, having nothing to do.</p>

<p>All I’ve done this entire time is set up reagents, clean glassware, put some things in a PCR, and ran a few gels. I have the ‘methods’ part of my poster down- however, there’s no way, with the dearth of data and applicable knowledge I have, that I can produce any type of analysis or conclusions or background summary. Hence, the problem. The research advisor said he would write them for me, send them to me, and that I can ‘rewrite them in my own words’. Does this show that I have knowledge of the material? No. Does this represent my own work? No. It’s plagiarism, plain and simple, and I’m not getting my hands dirty because he’s incompetent and preoccupied with his toddlers, or because his other students would rather surf the web and look at pr0n on lab computers, or… ugh, just a myriad of other reasons.</p>

<p>This lab is entirely, just, wrong. </p>

<p>Let me state some of the examples that I’ve encountered over the duration of my research ‘experience’:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Some of the vials taken from the refrigerator were frozen. I asked the lab tech (I am working with both her and the research advisor) how to unfreeze them more quickly than setting them out for half an hour. Her reply was to put them in my bra. Seriously.</p></li>
<li><p>The lab tech told me to mix 0.3 grams of a solute into 30 mL of a solvent for a 1% mixture. I asked her about the density of the solute, because clearly it would need to have the same density as water (1g/mL) for this to work. She explained to me that “a gram is the same thing as a milliliter.” so I replied, “So, this has the density of water?” She looked at me, clueless. Then she reiterated, “A gram always weighs one milliliter, no matter what.” I explained to her that a gram is a measure of mass, and a milliliter is a measure of volume, and she still didn’t understand me. She’s 47 and a graduate of this fine institution (tier 3!) where I am conducting ‘research’.</p></li>
<li><p>I was placed in this lab when my first research advisor, upon meeting me in person, stated that I was probably “not a good fit” for the project because I didn’t have a vehicle (I FLEW here) or camping equipment (it was a field project). I was never, ever apprised of this, not at all, prior to coming here. In fact, my roommate, whom is doing the same project, also does not have camping equipment and a car. She is also a size four. </p></li>
</ul>

<p>Not even a week before, he emailed me his 22 page grant proposal, as well as a few personal emails to ‘get to know me better’. When he saw me in person, he stated that I would “probably not like hiking too much” and should probably “find a different mentor” so that I wouldn’t have to “hike with our group”, read: I’m overweight and, although I do hike quite a lot and physically am in good shape for my size, he was discriminating against me.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>We have three groups of students in this program. I live next door to three girls in the third group. One of them cannot read. No, I don’t mean she can’t read the sixteen-syllabled words from organic chemistry and the such. I mean, she. cannot. read. “The white cat walked down the alley” is beyond her comprehension, and yet, she’s been paid to come here to do research. She’s never in the lab, never at the meetings, nothing. Their research advisor has a, hmmm, how do I state this, a ‘special relationship’ with them.</p></li>
<li><p>I constantly get told how this is “…not an Ivy League school” (i.e., my tier 3 comment above) and how the students here “…have to work to get their grades”. I never mentioned but once that I go to Penn. During the introductions, we were asked to state our name, majors, sending school, and what project we were to be completing. Since that time, all I have gotten is rudeness from the other students.</p></li>
<li><p>This university, without my consent, published a ton of my personal information online when they claimed that my personal information was to be used for “grant purposes only”. It took over a month to correct the error.</p></li>
<li><p>They bring food and drinks into the lab. I abstain from doing so. They were having a potluck in the lab, and I refused to participate (because you’re just not supposed to eat food around ethidium bromide). I come back an hour later to find all of my samples, which took over six hours to prepare, knocked on the floor, with the vials opened. Hmm…</p></li>
<li><p>We don’t have enough reagent to run our experiments, because our lab tech is too preoccupied with spending lab funds on $15 iTunes gift cards.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>There are probably 43,187,193 other things that I could mention, but at this point I don’t think it’s necessary. </p>

<p>All I’m saying is that he wants me to “make it sound like my own work”, and to me, being that I don’t have an idea of the basis behind the work… it’s plagiarism, plain and simple. </p>

<p>Excuse me for my poor writing. I’m going to bed soon.</p>

<p>Hey, I was in a similar situation 3 years ago in a summer program and just didn’t submit my poster. There was a vacant space where mine would have been. No one went after me and no one said anything about it. Life went on. Just don’t put on your resume that you presented your research from this internship.</p>

<p>After reading your second post, that sounds awful. Just put what you can on the poster and just don’t have an analysis or conclusion section. You can fill a lot of space with methods, materials, abstract, hypothesis, etc. Just say something along the lines of more research needs to be done to draw any conclusions. If you’re feeling bold use your mentor’s writing to say “It can be interpreted from this data that XYZ” if you want filler. That way you aren’t necessarily making any conclusions and you’re just saying what your mentor thinks (which is allowed because his name is on your poster). </p>

<p>Just put a lot of pictures and graphs on it. Hope people just look at colorful pictures and don’t actually read it. If you were drop dead gorgeous I’d suggest putting pictures of yourself performing some experiments on there to distract males.</p>

<p>About the 1% mixture thing, I never quite got that either. I think its just convention or something. Then again, I havn’t done bench work since high school and just went along with it as a 16 year old.</p>

<p>@Venkat89 - Ha! I would never elaborate on this experience on my resume. My resume is going to state what I did for the summer (research at this program), but wow, definitely not going to brag/lie about presenting here.</p>

<p>What year are you at Penn? What year did you do research? It sounds like you did this in high school… that’s pretty good. It’s really hard to find research programs that will take high school students.</p>

<p>Thanks for your replies! :)</p>

<p>tuser- Calm down. Of course I don’t plagiarize, but you’re overreacting. You should know that some people will try to help and they’ll really not be benefitting you. It’s up to you to decide that. If I were you, I’d just do my own work and say “no thanks” to the guy.</p>

<p>I’m going to be a junior. I started out as a Chem major and premed, so I’ve done my fair share of science. </p>

<p>From junior year of high school through my senior year I worked at a lab doing life science research (gels, PCR, you name it, I probably did it). I had to do a poster at the end of the summer and had nothing to present. I had to do a powerpoint presentation at the end of senior year and my presentation’s jist was “this is what I wanted to do, this is why my data sucked.”</p>

<p>As a sophomore I decided to give life science research another shot and worked at a computational biology lab at school where I did a lot more computer based stuff. It was alright, but I completely lost interest in bio and science. </p>

<p>I’m now an econ major and doing research at Wharton. The actual work isn’t too different from what I did at the compuational biology lab, but the stuff I’m working on is more interesting.</p>

<p>Yeah, Susiebra- that’s what it sounded like to me from your earlier post. </p>

<p>I will not use his work obviously. Good luck at Penn with your non-naive attitude on academic policies.</p>