<p>Hey Bruins!
I'll be going for computer science and engg this fall (and am thinking of double-majoring/minoring in Math/Econs or Business Economics). As an international, I'd need to finish my whole undergrad in 4 years (visa expires after that). So, will I really need to overload to get done with a double major? What classes should I be looking at for freshman year? As of now, I don't really know about the classes I'm required to take for the majors- is there a link which lists out the required classes? Which classes would you guys recommend? Any suggested pre-reading to do over the summer? Sorry for the shameless bombardment of questions- but please do answer! :)</p>
<p>oh- and another question! how many classes is it advisable to take per quarter? (considering that i REALLY REALLY want to do a double major!) (:
thanks again!</p>
<p>For engineering the standard load is 4 classes or 16-18 units per quarter. 20 units may be pushing it, especially if you do that every quarter. Anything over 18 will require a petition and department approval. If you pass out of any of those classes via AP’s or anything, that should give you a jump on things. Still, double majoring will require some more careful planning so that you can line up your secondary major or minor requirements to fit in with the SEAS GE’s. Basically you want to kill two birds with one stone. You should also petition to fulfill the technical breadth req with your secondary major/minor courses. </p>
<p>If you google for the ucla general catalog, that will provide you with the requirements for any LS majors. If you double major, you will only be required to fulfill the GE’s for one school/major. Choose engineering GE;s because there are fewer reqs.</p>
<p>it’ll be very hard to double major as an engineer, you need pretty much 4 classes a quarter for 4 years to just finish engineering classes… and you can try but i doubt you’ll finish double major in 4 years even if you do 5 classes a quarter, HSSEAS limit is 21 units before petition…</p>
<p>Sorry - it’s going to be near-impossible to graduate in 4 years as a CSE with a double major or even a minor. Unless you take about 5 classes a quarter (which is a LOT of work, especially if you have multiple courses which require programming), then you’ll find yourself here for a good 5 years.</p>
<p>math/econs and bizecon are both relatively tough majors (although neither is as tough as engineering). Doing that with CSE is pushing it. You definitely won’t graduate in 4 years even if you took summer courses, not to mention it will definitely put your over your unit limit, in which case you would have to petition.</p>
<p>I recommend you finish all your GEs during the summer at a community college. It is cheaper (although I don’t know the international fee, I assume it is cheaper) and classes are easier. And if you have taken AP/IB sciences and calc, that should give you a head start on your courses. Even CSE students with this head start sometime are unable to graduate in 4 years.</p>
<p>Is there a sample 4 year plan for all majors? Or only specific ones? I’m looking for a chemistry/materials science 4 year plan because I’m not sure how to schedule myself one.</p>
<p>chemistry/ materials science? Engineering usually has one, not sure about other departments. </p>
<p>The unit cap pre-petition is 21 units for engineers.</p>
<ul>
<li>College/School Maximum Units
Letters and Science 19
School of Theater, Film, and Television 19
School of the Arts and Architecture 20
School of Engineering 21</li>
</ul>
<p>coldness - I’m only aware of the sample plan for the engineering school majors (<a href=“http://www.seasoasa.ucla.edu/current/deptinfo.html[/url]”>http://www.seasoasa.ucla.edu/current/deptinfo.html</a>), used to grate on me that fact actually. To do it yourself just start with the basic courses, such as math, chemistry, physics, etc. Try to balance it with your “easy” GE courses (that you can take pass/no pass as well), say 2-3 major courses + 2-1 GE courses. </p>
<p>100%Tuna - When you are CSE, EE sort of becomes your “minor” if you compare your course reqs to CS. However, depending on what sort of AP credit you may have coming in (not sure how this works for int’l students), you could potentially skip out of Chem, Math 31/B, or Physics 1A.</p>
<p>That leaves you with about 11-15 “elective/GE” classes over 4 years (with no summer sessions), assuming 4 classes (+1 lab) every quarter. Within that frame work you could probably do at least a minor, and if you were willing to do summer sessions or knock out some GE’s at a local junior college you could free up more scheduling space. It totally depends on how far ahead of the game you come in at though. </p>
<p>The other important point is that you petition those 3 technical breadth requirements to be something useful for your pursuit of a double major. </p>
<p>Check out what the reqs for your intended double major is, the more overlap the better. Biz/econ looks like it requires 18 classes that don’t overlap w/ CSE, with them all being econ/management, 4 yrs definitely looks unlikely.
With Math Econ, there seems to be 16 non-overlapping courses, a tight fit to be sure when juggled with your GE reqs. </p>
<p>You don’t have your to finish in four years.
When your visa expires, you can still extend it. Even if you don’t you will still be able to take classes (but you won’t be allowed to leave the country as your visa is basically your entry permit):</p>
<p>How long may I stay on my F-1 student visa?</p>
<p>When you enter the United States on a student visa, you will usually be admitted for the duration of your student status. That means you may stay as long as you are a full time student, even if the F-1 visa in your passport expires while you are in America.</p>
<p>It’s impossible to do a double major if you’re doing CSE in 4 years, unless you’re like some of my crazy chinese friends taking 6 core classes every quarter (and still owning them -_-) and taking 4 classes in a single summer session. Oh btw, I’m international too and also thought about biz/econ, but it’s too hardcore I guess.</p>