<p>They disallowed portable radios with CD playing functions at the SAT Foreign Language + Listening Subject Test because they feared that people would use radio signals to transfer answers or something like that.</p>
<p>I feel like these methods are quite similar to tactics used on the Chinese National Exam, or “gaokao”. Maybe we are evolving to a new level of cheating strategies?</p>
<p>If a student caught cheating received an automatic F for the semester, would that stop the behavior?</p>
<p>@siliconvalleymom: At all of the schools that I’ve been to, cheating results in expulsion. Doesn’t seem to stop it though. </p>
<p>@suprafreshkid, bobtheboy: Cheating at my highly competitive school was rampant and a lot easier than studying. It seems the best method of cheating was the most basic: Students taking the test at an earlier time would tell other students the questions on the exam. The teachers only caught this because, on every single test in every class, the average test scores were significantly higher in later periods. The teachers could never catch students though.</p>
<p>@siliconvalleymom- our official school policy is cheating results in an automatic zero on the assignment and a suspension. It never happens, the teachers don’t want to make the effort to do the paper work or deal with the angry parent calls and the kids cry or sweet talk out of it.</p>
<p>It wouldn’t be that hard to stop alot of it though. One of my teacher makes everyone put backpacks at the front of the room and all cellphones and Ipods on a table on test day. She also doesn’t use the same tests for all her classes so the 1st period exam is different from the 5th period exam. Unfortunately many teachers don’t want to make the extra effort and the kids reasoning is “if the teacher won’t spend an extra 15 minutes to make it hard to cheat, why should we make the effort to study?”</p>
<p>@dfree I dont know if that is a mistake, but no offense, is it possible to get a 79 on the psat and talk about how u are in AP classes? I mean, idk if it was a mistake, but if it wasnt…just saying</p>
<p>@knicksman I’ve never taken the PSAT, I’m more of an ACT kind of guy (32 my first time around). I see the misunderstanding, I got a 79 on the APUSH test, not the PSAT. No worries though, my writing was pretty convoluted.</p>
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And you are alllowed to use your cellphone during tests? Odd that you admit to dishonesty publicly. Better hope your identity can’t be figured out, because someone just might report you to your school!</p>
<p>^I don’t think anyone will do that.</p>
<p>Only a jerk would try to identify the person. The “ask other kids about the test” trick is rampant at my school. In fact, teachers basically acknowledge that we do it. One said that it “balances out because everyone has tests in an earlier period and in a later period.” </p>
<p>Has anyone ever gotten caught talking about the test to another student? I don’t think anyone has gotten caught doing that.</p>
<p>As a kid in high school, I’ll tell why and when I cheat.</p>
<p>First of all, let me just tell you that I hate cheating and that I never get a rewarding feeling when I get a good grade from cheating. However, there are a couple times when I have to. A couple weeks ago I caught strep which made me stay at home for a week, and then a couple days later I had to go to Mexico for 2 weeks. I ended up missing around 3 weeks of school and I fell behind in Pre-Cal, which isn’t too fun. My teacher expected me to take the test that I missed 3 days after I got back and said he didn’t have time to teach me anything. I looked in the book and had no clue what was going on, so I had to borrow my friend’s test and study from it. The only way I could’ve learned that stuff was with a tutor… so no. Anyways, there are kids in my class who have the tests from last year and use them for every test… I’d say they’re the real cheaters lol</p>
<p>I also cheated a lot in Hebrew last year… but that’s cuz I was just too lazy to memorize words. No excuse for that to.</p>
<p>There’s this one kid in my class who cheats compulsively, and has basically cheated his way into an Ivy 
He’s a smart person, but he doesn’t apply himself. I dunno… that type of behavior just makes me feel sick.</p>
<p>Students now… are putting in more effort to cheat, rather than using that effort to study.</p>
<p>Sure sounds like it, Denebel.</p>
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So why did you have to go to Mexico? And you think your cheating is justified, whereas the kids who use old tests aren’t?</p>
<p>lol @CTTC:
Ummmm. My teachers don’t even think it’s that big of a deal honestly. Like, my math teacher caught me and a couple others cheating on our homework because we all accidentally did the same problem and got the same answer. He literally said, “if you’re gonna cheat, don’t be stupid about it.” We didn’t even get a zero on the homework assignment, we just missed that question.</p>
<p>eh, I know this is hypocritical, but I cheat on homework, but never on tests. There’s more of a guilt feeling on tests because most (if not all of my teachers) check for solely completion.</p>
<p>Easiest way to cheat is to write info in pencil on your desk, easy to erase after, never been caught.</p>
<p>@Johnnyyzxz</p>
<p>As someone sitting through a Midwestern winter, the phrase “I had to go to Mexico for two weeks” made me laugh out loud.</p>
<p>I feel like most of these “eCheating” methods aren’t terribly new; we’ve had cell phones for a decade (though not smartphones, obviously), bottle labels are hardly the newest innovation from Silicon Valley, and any one-way communication would seem to me to be useless. </p>
<p>Still, though, cheating isn’t that uncommon in high school, which just doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve always felt (Calc BC excluded) that high school courses’ most difficult element is their workload, which is usually laden with busywork. Tests, obviously not a part of that, almost invariably tend to be, if not easy, then certainly workable, with the appropriate amount of study. Am I in the minority in saying this?</p>
<p>(This isn’t to say I’ve never cheated before. Screw you, freshman business course, and every last horses*** acronym you made me memorize)</p>
<p>Blindly memorizing information is just as bad as cheating. Anyone can memorize, but not everyone can actually understand or synthesize real concepts. I hate high school</p>
<p>We can’t even enter our classroom before midterm and final! They afraid we would write on desk…
In some cases, we are not allowed to place our pencil case on the desk, only pen and eraser.</p>