<p>Ok I just switched schools and noticed that the kids dont cheat as much as my old school. My old school was an amazing public school much nicer than most private schools, with mostly upper-middle class kids with lots of free cash, its not like we cheated on every single thing but when we needed an edge we took it. We rarely did hwk. by ourselves unless a test was coming up. Usually one of the group who was grounded or didnt want to go out that night would do it and we would all come over later or see them at school or something and get the answers. For the most part we took tests honestly but every once in a while when we werent going to be ready(like we had something big coming up, like someones parents out of town so were throwing a huge party or something), someone would get a copy of the test or something and we would get together and work it out the night before then just copy the answers down on the real test. The teachers knew that this was going on but they just let it go (it takes a LOT of money to keep the school going and in Indiana the better your students are the more money the school gets, plus the nice school kept the students that would usually pay the tuition and go to a private school). Even most of the really nerdy kids would bend the rules when they didnt have the time to do stuff on their own... I was just wondering is this scenario something that is rare or does this happen at similar schools?</p>
<p>Haha ya. I usually wouldn't call my self a slacker, but I copy answers once in a while, because sometimes I just have to do what I have to do, because a 0 on a hwk assignment is unacceptable. Plus usually at least one person has the assignment done in my group. So whoever does it, the other people that didn't just copy. As for tests not many people cheat, unless you consider telling a couple question that will be on there cheating. I have to admit though I have cheated a few times, especially in Algebra 2, but it seemed like the teacher seriously didn't care.</p>
<p>in my middle school, my 7th grade math teacher infamously said "you can cheat, as long as i dont catch you"</p>
<p>this made all of the other 7th grade teacher in the school very mad at him... lol</p>
<p>Well, it sounds like a DARN dishonest school...not only is everyone cheating at school, but they are lying to their parents and "throwing huge parties" often when they're out of town. All I can say is you should stop your cheating habits, considering that they may advance you in the short-run, but if you EVER get caught, it will seriously mess up the rest of your academic career. Colleges frown harshly upon students who have been caught cheating. Even if you don't get caught you'll have to live with the life-long guilt of knowing that you cheated to get the grades that landed you at a top-notch college. </p>
<p>I cheated once, in 3rd grade. I wrote 8x7=56 on a piece of paper and stuck it in my desk, because for the life of me I could not remember it. I didn't get caught, but that memory has haunted me since, and I haven't so much as even copied homework since then.</p>
<p>Ye be warned.</p>
<p>I think there's a big difference in between plagiarizing a paper and copying a friend's math worksheet after being busy with other comitments the night before <em>shrug</em> Though admittedly I'm one of those people who refuses to let people in my class copy due to rankings and such, but I'll help all other grade levels, haha.</p>
<p>Also have a terrible 3rd grade cheating experiences. We were labeling the parts of a leaf on a test and I forgot where the stoma was, so I looked on the person's next to me. It was kinda traumatizing.</p>
<p>haha thats so funny!!</p>
<p>You guys are crazy, cheating really won't help anyone learn, and if you guys ever go to half decent colleges when the work-load starts to get immense, then you can't cheat because there will be individually graded papers and major tests where you will have to show knowledge about the question and not just the answer. Most cheaters are also slackers who start to complain when their work gets too hard or they complain about staying up to 2AM to finish homework when they could've have started their homework when they got home instead of IMing their friends or going to starbucks to get coffee.</p>
<p>Meestasi - you're entirely right, and those are the people who are going to bite it when it comes to tests. What I'm talking about is when you're out all night for extracirriculars, or your grandmother dies, or whatever, and you forget a minor textbook assignment or something. In a case like that, copying seems to me justified so long as you go back over the material and make sure you know what you're doing.</p>
<p>(And in defense: I personally would never cheat, but then again I'm kind of a psycho-machoist.)</p>
<p>Ok first off, who cares about homework and who cares about third grade. Second off, the majority of high schoolers lie to their parents, its pretty much a necessity to have fun(and i mean real fun, not playing video games or discussing ap physics with friends). I think we all know that getting caught will screw you so thats not even worth mentioning and sometimes it is worth the risk rather than failing. I do make an effort to learn the material on the tests when I have the time b/c a copy of the test or other kinds of help isnt always available on the next test. I've spent many nights working into the early morning but sometimes I just dont have the time. I run track and some of the bigger events are known to run until 11 or 12 at night and after going to get something to eat and whatever, its not really a lot of time left for studying. There is no point in feeling guilty about b/c we know most ppl do it, it could be even considered abnormal to never do it. But yeah I do agree with you all in that it will have a negative effect on us all in college. I have times even in high school where Im just really lazy and dont do any of the homework myself. I know this wont work very well in college, im working to improve this (at my new school most of the kids in my ap classes arent the type to show you their homework, and the one that will is usually the one i was with the night before).</p>
<p>And just to put this out there. Nobody plagiarizes paper (although some do pay others to write it for them), straight copying a paper is much to risky and that is just amazingly lazy since usually you have like 3 weeks to write it.</p>
<p>Yeah I don't really cheat, but lots of times I do half of an (ungraded) homework assignments, and get together with a friend that did the other half.</p>
<p>Usually I just do stuff on my own, sans cheating, because I need to learn.</p>
<p>Cheating on tests by copying/writing on your hand in my school gets you 3 days suspension, with all grades that you miss a 0. So I'd much rather miss a question on a test than get completely screwed in my classes, then by my parents.</p>
<p>Of course you guys are all right, we all ahve extremely busy nights and days and most likely we feel that it's necessary to copy some homework to get it turned in. But we can't really blame that on just having too many activities, it's more of a combination of the society that forces us to be productive at all times, our own ambitions, and our parents believing we are smart, bright, and should have the best taht life can offer us. But I still can't see any legitimate excuse for us to cheat especially on petty things like homework, where they won't matter in the long run. And if there are teachers checking homework for completeness jsut for the hell of it, then I suggest you get out of that class because most likely it's not worth your time if they have to force you to do half-assed homework that most likely you'll cpy off of someone else anyways.</p>
<p>I know some who cheat religiously...One girl, I believe, wants to live up to her brother's legacy (he got into Cornell, although no ne from our school usually ever gets into an Ivy)...She actually took another girl's test to copy the answers one day in Honors English I when we had a substitute...others, however, have much more integrity.</p>
<p>I don't know, I can understand cheating once in a blue moon, and even then, I don't think it's the right thing to do, but to me, a constant cheater = slacker. It just screams of laziness. I once knew a kid who would get test answers from a kid who had already taken the test, and tape them to the inside cover of his calculator. It was just infuriating when he skated by with A's when the rest of us had to work our a**es off to get the same grade.</p>
<p>Have some dignity, and do the work yourself. Cheating will catch up with you sooner or later.</p>
<p>It makes me mad...and if a teacher grades on curve, everyone else is screwed as a result.</p>
<p>the answer in the calc thing is sooo easy.. teachers have to know its happening they just dont care</p>
<p>Last year I got caught cheating in French. Luckily for me, the French teacher REALLY liked me. She talked alot about politics in clas,s and nobody really liked her and people would always try to twist her words. i talked to her a good deal outside of class, and we got along pretty well. So when she caught me she made me stop, but she didn't report me. If she had, I'd have been kicked out of NHS, had a damn hard time getting recommendation letters, and would have to face a lot of ridicule from other teachers.</p>
<p>though cheat is not good<br>
do it in some occasion is not bad</p>
<p>I think that if you forget to do say, some math homework problems or answering some questions for Spanish, and you come to school the next day and ask some friends for the answers to get credit... yeah, that's fine. Not if you make a habit of it. Just in case it happens. I (like I'm sure most people here) always do my homework but being human, slip occasionally. But to cheat on major assignments or tests, or to cheat regularly on homework, that's very wrong.</p>
<p>"discussing ap physics with friends" <---AWW c'mon terry, that IS fun!
What's your definition of fun...getting hammered and then "not having time to do your homework"...yeah that's genius! Wow.</p>
<p>To all those people who have said, "I don't have enough TIME <em>whines</em> I have so many activities, and just can't find room to do homework", I give a big BULL$**T. You will make time if you care enough. You will use lunch and the little free time slots during the day to get it done. You will use time management and weekends to finish things. As some people said, you'll drop a course level and keep on trucking. You'll get off AIM and JUST DO THE WORK. There are plenty of ways to make time and get the work done without cheating.</p>