Hopkins or WUSTL?

<p>I've done research on both schools and both seem to be excellent but i'm having trouble finding some key differences in the two schools to help set them apart. I plan on applying ED to one of them, because I know i'd be happy at either one, but i'm having trouble deciding. </p>

<p>Can anyone speak a little about what sets the schools apart? </p>

<p>I know that WUSTL has a lower acceptance rate, but it's marked as a "possible" for me, while Hopkins is a "reach" school.</p>

<p>Statistically, the two are very similar, although WUSTL has slightly higher test scores and a slightly lower acceptance rate - not to mention they're notorious for waitlisting qualified applicants to protect their yield, but we won't get into that.</p>

<p>To decide between the two, you'd probably have to focus on more subjective qualities. What kind of atmosphere would you prefer in a school, east coast vs. midwest, etc.</p>

<p>Hopkins is known more as a math/egineering focus and it tends to be fairly cut throat. If you are into that competitive side, with that academic focus than it may be a good choice. Also its location is not exactly optimal for a college. Wash U has a more broad focus, has a reputation as a very fun school with great academics. Its campus is also beautiful. Its a personal choice, my brother chose Wash U over Hopkins.</p>

<p>Thanks for the opinions so far!
I'm trying to find out what the ED acceptance rates for Hopkins and WashU are too. I think I'd prefer to be in a mid-west atmosphere but my parents like the reputation that Hopkins has. Does anyone know the ED acceptance rates for the two schools? or can send me a link to a site which has them?</p>

<p>Don't look at the acceptance rates, look at the schools.</p>

<p>Hopkins, much better academically in practically every field but also much more competitive
WashU, has bad rep on CC, but is a solid school. It has awesome living conditions(and food). And pretty much most other schools have students more chill than JHU's.</p>

<p>From an academic perspective, pick JHU. For a more chill/good college experience, go with WashU (and if you do, don't write much about you, write about your UNIMAGINABLE desire to attend)</p>

<p>I advise against picking schools based on their acceptance rates, but since you asked, here's the data for JHU, from collegeboard's site.</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins:
* Number of early decision applications received: 997
* Number admitted under early decision plan: 446
* ED Acceptance Rate: 44.7%
* Overall Acceptance Rate: 24%
* Difference: +20.7%</p>

<p>WUSTL hasn't released their statistics, but I presume it wouldn't be that different. Again, I stress that acceptance rate shouldn't be the basis of your decision.</p>

<p>Thank you, I know i shouldn't care too much about acceptance rate, it's just that I'm stressing out with this whole college thing because my parents are putting pressure on me to go to a big "name" school, and i have this deep fear that I might not get into any of my "good" schools if I don't use ED. Hopefully I can perform well on the October SAT and relieve some stress. Thank you all for your help!</p>

<p>It's good to know the acceptance rate in order to gauge your chances of admission, I just meant that you shouldn't pick one school over another because of a higher acceptance rate. You should definitely look over statistics for both schools, but the eventual decision will probably come down to less tangible distinctions, like where you fit better and where you will be happier. No use slaving away for four miserable years at a big-name school that's completely wrong for ya.</p>

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Hopkins, much better academically in practically every field but also much more competitive
WashU, has bad rep on CC, but is a solid school. It has awesome living conditions(and food). And pretty much most other schools have students more chill than JHU's.</p>

<p>From an academic perspective, pick JHU. For a more chill/good college experience, go with WashU (and if you do, don't write much about you, write about your UNIMAGINABLE desire to attend)

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I complete disagree that Hopkins is a superior school based on academics or reputation. People here bash Wash U, but in the real world it is every bit as prestigious as Hopkins for those who need to know. Academically they are comparable, but Hopkins may win slightly. Yet by acceptance rates, Wash U wins by a good margin and even though people here love to hate it, USNWR has helped Wash U. Being so highly ranked for a few years really demonstrates its on the rise and has caused it to gain more and more national recognition.</p>

<p>There is not that many difference that matters enough to consider. One of the differences i can think of is that Hopkins is more well known. However, do not base your decision on things like that. Both will be good choices. Personally, i would go with Hopkins because of how i view its advantages over WUSTL. But that is mostly subjective so i will not bother posting. Both will be a good choice.</p>

<p>Depends, are you better at Hopping or Whistling?</p>

<p>WUSTL is so fake.</p>

<p>Personally, My guidance counselor asked me to apply to this school named Washington U. in St. Louis. I have never heard of this school in my life and I feel that I was well acquainted with the top brand name colleges at the time, including schools such as UChicago at the time (strong academics, just isn't know to the average common type ppl).</p>

<p>WashU's name recognition is not where it deserves to be...
It is US News 12th ranked college though most ppl on the street would not know of the college. Those "in the know" think WashU is overrated. It does get bashed often for gaming the USNews rankings, though it is a solid university with a very strong student body and a huge endowment.</p>

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<p>PA's
WashU: 4.1
Hopkins: 4.6</p>

<p>You don't need to agree, Presidents and Provosts already has a say in that. You don't really need to go down this path of comparing academics. WashU's known strengths are in medicine, social workers, and architecture school. Beyound that, Hopkins just owns WUSTL in every field there is:</p>

<p>WashU 2007 - Chronicle</a> Facts & Figures: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index
Johns Hopkins 2007 - Chronicle</a> Facts & Figures: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index</p>

<p>Enter Bescraze's attack on me overplaying departmental rankings, anti-WashU bashing, and pro-JHU stance. ::roll eyes:: I'm only speaking from my experience and just clearing up any misunderstanding on academics and reputation that we both clearly have. lol</p>

<p>stop being a hopkins fanboy.</p>

<p>@phead, </p>

<p>which one do you think is the better school for someone who wants to study science and go into medicine?</p>

<p>and then</p>

<p>which one do you think is easier to get into (w/ and without ED)?</p>

<p>Just go to wustl. Its neighborhood is nicer, plus you will be miserable at Johns hopkins.</p>

<p>^ Says a lot for a person who doesn't know WashU is in St. Louis, the nation's most dangerous city America...haha, neighborhoods nice, be sure to not get shot in the face or mugged while your in the street. JHU's neighborhood fairly nice, don't listen to what these posters are saying. They have no idea about what they are saying.</p>

<p>I go to Johns Hopkins, I think based on the research that I have done, the ranking disparities is fairly clear evidence to show that not all programs at Hopkins and WashU are equal.</p>

<p>To be perfectly honest, our medical school and their medical school is #2 and #3 respectively. Each school has a fantastic premed advising office with professional former medical school deans of admissions on their payroll. So your going to get into a fantastic med school regardless of which one you decide to go.</p>

<p>Go on the basics, science if fairly stronger at JHU over WashU, though at the undergraduate level, this may not be evident to you or you really wouldn't experience any of the profound effects since you are an undegraduate, the introductory sequence of your basic science classes is standard and the science topics are so fundamental that you really can't see the difference in the undergraduate level between WashU and JHU.</p>

<p>With that said, you'll find more opportunities such as research assistant positions and internships with top rated programs. If your interested in medicine, such internships are plentiful beyound imagination for undergrads, you will be surprised since their respective med schools are pretty awesome.</p>

<p>Here you go for JHU ED</p>

<p>Number of early decision applications received: 997
Number admitted under early decision plan: 447
% ED JHU Accepted: 45% (Duke 41%, Northwestern 43%, UChicago 45%, Cornell 35%)</p>

<p>Early Decision and Early App figures for WashU are not available or no information is available at this time.</p>

<p>Also be weary that ED is a binding contract!! Good luck where ever you go, you can't go wrong with either choice.</p>

<p>I said the neighborhood is nicer, not the city.</p>